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Donald Trump the Megathread part II - mod warnings in OP, Updated 18/03/25

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,048 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    I think you are failing to fully understand just how much control Trump, and the GOP, now exert.

    The MSM has been completely hobbled. Anyone who raises even a hint of concern or criticism is labelled an enemy of the state. Most of the big networks are fully behind Trump (Fox) or accepted that they cannot get access and openly question so they have opted to ignore the lies and report as fact simply.

    The new media, the one that was supposed to be the freedom from the previous biased MSM, has been completely taken over. Twitter is owed by the Second POTUS. Facebook has given in completely and gone fully behind Trump, and TikTok is soon to be taken over and controlled.

    Newspapers are fully in line with Trump, the Washington Post is the best example of a once leading paper completely acquiescing to Trump.

    Voting control and suppression is a major factor. The GOP put a huge effort after 2020 to ensure that they had the right people in the right positions to ensure that the voting, should it be required, could be easily manipulated.

    The 'media' which now includes the MSM and new media, breathlessly reports on the EO's, the turning on of water pumps in California, the taking over of Greenland, a single military flight (turned back) with a few hundred immigrants is reported as if it was the greatest thing ever.

    So the midterms are probably not going to go the way you might think, certainly from our POV over here. If prices haven't come down, for example, the admin will find somebody to blame. The cost of sending immigrants back, the cost of keeping them in camps, the tariffs just have to be raised higher to work better etc.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,326 ✭✭✭Field east


    So u think that he was bluffing when he said that there is a big trade deficit between The US and Ireland - it must be big in his eyes since he highlighted it. The first time he did not significantly act on his comments/opinions . NOW HE IS - EO by EO by EL by EO by desires expressed ——————— .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,689 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    'Roll on the mid-terms'. Every accusation is a confession. In two years time he (ie the party, he personally may be a wreck) will be able to do whatever he wants with elections, you can be sure he will win them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,326 ✭✭✭Field east


    Yea, I can picture it all from a MAGA. Point of view. Ie it’s a remotely controlled

    yea, I can picture it all from a MAGA point of view. It is a remotely controlled electric caddy with the controls in his hands as he walks from hole to hole and making sure that the caddy is beside him AT ALL TIMES in case he gets tired - which is only natural- OR he gets an urgent call and has to rush back to the office



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,394 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    That must be why all the federal funding was paused, so they can start printing $7 trillion for the 127 million families in the US.

    Such as shame she wasn't called out on it. Like when will these $55k cheques be mailed out. Or is that just $7 trillion less in regulation for companies to pocket it they choose to, like when the reduced corporation tax and that saving went on corporate bonuses and extra dividends.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,640 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    Ahh, Making America Great Again, just like the good old days of TB:

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,572 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    RFK Jr. was asked about that. He replied "Hrrckkhhrr errckkhshk qckksckke cckkheukkk mrdckkrckk"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,435 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Denying federal aid, an anti vaccine conspiracy theorist like RFK Jnr in any position of responsibility for health…

    This will lead to deaths, preventable deaths, of Americans.

    But remember folks, Biden was betting a bit too old, Harris had a strange laugh and Trump must be a man of the people cos he was in McDonalds for a few hours pretending to work…

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,017 ✭✭✭✭briany


    The rise of fascism or simply 'strong man' leaders doesn't happen in a vacuum. I don't believe that people want a tyrant, but when they feel failed by liberal democracy, when they feel like their economic situation and general society is getting worse, the attraction to someone charismatic who promises to cut through the red tape and take the country back from the nefarious interests who have hijacked their government overrides that reticence/fear. This was the situation in Russia, for example, before Putin took power, and it was the situation in Germany before Hitler got in.

    But for some reason, the leaders of liberal democracies never learn the lesson. These governments can tolerate a certain amount of discontent by classifying these people as malcontents, cranks or even simply idiots, but that only works when it's a relatively small minority and times are prosperous. It doesn't work when you're coming off a disastrous recession and it's half the population or so, e.g. Hillary Clinton's 'basket of deplorables' remark. Then it just looks like they've no ability to read the room, which only hastens the fall in public trust they have.

    So, I can understand why some people in Ireland would admire these so-called strong-man types. That doesn't mean I think that these types of leaders will truly make anything better, but we must understand how they rise in the first place if the cycle is ever to be broken in the future.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,637 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    RFK Jr is a cancer. He lobbied the Prime Minister of Samoa not to vaccinate children during a Measles outbreak. 83 died. His own family despise him and for very good reason.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,035 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Trump's entire schtick is grievance politics, and is fuelled by Americans and those abroad, all of whom blame people either at their level or lower in terms of socio-economic groups or race.

    They either believe that he will make things better for them (bullshit) or, if that fails, at least he will punish those they look down on.

    They have a kid's mentality, a failure to see the bigger picture or a better world, where the "haves" pay their fair share, and instead get their kicks out of the "have nots" being slapped around.

    Bullies, or bully sympathisers. Either way, they can go to hell.

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,595 ✭✭✭francois


    Cry baby Diaper Don has removed Gen. Milley's security detail, official portraits form the Pentagon and is reviewing his rank status. Totally normal behaviour

    https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/28/us/politics/trump-pentagon-milley-security.html?unlocked_article_code=1.s04.E8Uc.pPpolAAbcGWk



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,394 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    Hopefully the Senate sees sense. Long shot, I know.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,637 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    No chance. Even if they see through RFK Jr, Trump is at the peak of his powers. If Pete Hegseth is Secretary of Defence, HHS will be RFK's plaything.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,992 ✭✭✭ronjo


    I have one friend in Ireland (I only go there twice a year) who loves Trump. Every single time I go home he has a litany of grievances about people he knows, family and the world at large.

    The latest was that him and his wife always have to driver their kids around (17 & 19!!!!!!) because public transport is so unsafe these days,

    I never really noticed his complaining so much until it was pointed out by 2 people to me.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,394 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    You're probably correct. He'll be made a laughing stock during the confirmation hearings and still be waved through by the GOP.

    He'll probably instruct the FDA to stop the culling of the chickens with bird flu to bring down the price of eggs. 😷



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,708 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    What an absolutely petty, piece of crap, scrote this guy is.

    An this is the type of person that some people want to follow?

    Imagine if Biden had had the ability to remove Trump's security detail. July 13th 2024 may have turned out very differently.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,708 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    Well, as somebody else said…How weak do you have to be in order to view Trump as a "strong man".



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,535 ✭✭✭techdiver


    The type of person who views Trump as a strong man are the type who use Rogan, Tate, Peterson et al as their primary source of what it is to be "masculine". An anti intellectual cave man view of the world. If you actually analyse any of these charlatans above they are filled with insecure energy.

    I'm dumbfounded how they can view a silver spoon coward who never earned a thing in his life that wasn't handed to him, as a tough guy they should follow.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,978 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    An this is the type of person that some people want to follow?

    Unfortunately the core who follow Trump don't care about any of this stuff.

    And they are outnumbered by the people who will not know about this because they don't follow the news and/or are one of the 10's of millions of functionally illiterate adults in the country

    The 50% of the country that do care can't do anything but watch this all unfold for the next 2 years.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,257 ✭✭✭crusd


    The more posts you read form the MAGA heads to more a more clear it becomes that it is a cult



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,572 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    It's the usual playbook. Can't defend all the bad things happening, so have to go way the f*ck overboard in praising one minor thing.

    "Probably the best ever seen"? The only high point of what she did was 'not kill anyone' like she was probably told she could because Trump would just pardon her for it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,429 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    TBF when Measles Magee gets in, guns will no longer be the main cause of death for children, this will rapidly shift to easily preventable diseases.

    So a win for the NRA.

    Not so much the dead children though.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,295 ✭✭✭Stallingrad


    I suspect it plays to his narrative about the deep state. Somehow he is revealing something that will expose all the dark secrets of government. Also gives him the illusion of openness and transparency. It's just another one of his clever and calculated grifts.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,894 ✭✭✭TinyMuffin


    1 of the January 6th fellas trump pardoned was killed the other day in a altercation with a traffic cop who tried to arrest him.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,791 ✭✭✭Hoop66


    I think that post (the one with the absurd, over-the-top praise of a manifestly unqualified press secretary) may be better unreplied to, if you catch my drift? Might be better to leave it unfed, as it were. #civilposting



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,737 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    "the attraction to someone charismatic who promises to cut through the red tape and take the country back from the nefarious interests who have hijacked their government overrides that reticence/fear."

    Charismatic is not a Word I would you use to describe Trump. I can think of a lot of other ones though but I will not say as they will get me banned.

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,017 ✭✭✭✭briany


    Both of these posts correctly identify that there is a problem, but they don't identify how we arrived at the problem, and I humbly say that knowing how we arrived at the problem is most important to knowing how to stop it happening in the first place or happening again.

    I think Bill Burr riffed about this a little bit one time in the wake of Trump's first election win where he was imitating someone who couldn't explain how it happened - "It was all these racists [who voted for Trump]. They came out of the forest!"

    One doesn't have to agree with the conclusions of the wannabe tyrants that there are problems in our current political systems and societies that those people can feed off. I would see that identifying these things and dealing with them, even if they're unpleasant to do so, is pretty critical.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,637 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    Charisma is in the eye of the beholder. Sure, some racist saying racist things won't impress me but I am not the target audience. That would be the people who've spent decades voting for their own suffering and are now voting for the same party that delivered said suffering.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,109 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    Trump yesterday says he's going to put universal tariffs on all pharmaceutical imports. That is a direct targeting of Ireland specifically way above any other western country and the first hit we'll take under the Trump administration.



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