Manchester United Thread 25/26 - Teamtalk/Transfers/Gossip Mod Note in OP 26.09.24

Not super excited tbh, but I'm hoping Wilcox, Vivell etc have done their homework.

Unfortunately can't really ever get excited about new transfers anymore. Far too many flops. In fact, it's most likely we will need to replace this guy after 2 years...

I think Dorgu is being signed for a couple of reasons.

One, is his cost. Yes he is expenive in general terms but far less in transfer fee and wages than Mendes, or even Ait-Nouri would be. In an ideal world we would have gone for one of them imo.

Second, I don;t think they want to spend on short term fixes they will be looking to sell in a couple of years. Could htey have got an older, solid pro, signing this month for the same money or less? Maybe. But maybe we'd have to spend again in the summer or the following season. I think the club have a general plan of where they want to be in 3 years or so - and I think all/majority of the signings will be made to be members of that squad in 3 years.

Maybe Dorgu will take time to settle, maybe he won't hit the ground running and make a big impact this season - but the club (i think) expect him to be a quality player for us down the line as well - as in the Yoro signing, which can also have valid complaints.

And Maybe dorgu won't work out at all - but we have signed all manner of players over the years that haven't worked out - buying the players at their peak for peak prices hasn't worked just as much as buying gambles hasn't.

Every signing is always a gamble, that is a given.

Not all gambles have the same importance though and this is one signing that Amorim absolutely has to get right. This is a position where he desperately needs to be sure of what he is getting, even if that is just a 7/10 player every week. He needs to minimise the gamble as much as he can.

If Dorgu doesn't immediately settle and Amorims side continues to underperform then he is going to get hammered, because he needed to address the left side and he decided to gamble on an inexperienced kid instead.

If there is another LB brought in on loan in the next week then I immediately have no problem with signing Dorgu (apart from the price). But if there isn't and Dorgu doesn't settle immediately, then I really worry for Amorim.

Its a different, valid, way of trying to get out of this mess but could possibly also increase the time it takes to get where we want to. Or dorgu could be a massive failure and set us back further.

Ineos seem to have decided on a way to build the squad, not one you agree with. But it is ineos and not just amorim as your comment implies, though amorim will bear the brunt of failure.

Every comment.....🤦🏻‍♂️

Remind me to never get on DM_7s bad side....That's some proper effort to prove a point 😅

Watch Shaw suddenly be fit again now that we got another LB!

Well we heard plenty about Ten Hags signings, but I guess this is another Ten Hag standard that Amorim won't be held to.

Are these comments supposed to add something? If you don't like my posts then you know what to do, no need to keep jumping in to remind everybody you don't like them.

I don't put people on ignore, everyone is free to comment what they want.

You have this weird idea we're all positive, we aren't, just look at my comments before the Fulham game and Dorgu, you just seem to find something new to say "oh he better perform now" its quite amusing.

If it doesn’t work out will he be an Amorim or Ineos signing ?

I don't think anybody thinks the conversation should be nothing but cheerful. & I don't think anyone minds hearing negative things.

It's just you've made your stance repeatedly, everyone knows your thoughts on Amorim at this stage. People have offered alternative views on it and just get labelled as not wanting to hear anything bad. I don't think that's fair.

Obviously you're entitled to post whatever you want but I think that's where people's frustrations are coming from.

A comment from me to Buckety less than a week ago

The difference is I won't go overly hard on him when the squad isn't his and we've seen this lot time and time again throw away games under him and ETH.

By this time next year if he has his transfers and it's still the same I'll start asking serious questions.

Yet he still thinks we're all super happy dappy positive, goal post movers are the worst to debate.

In fairness to the UWS podcast, he isn’t really responsible for what the people he’s speaking to say. I don’t think he deliberately tries to bait AFTV style responses from people and it’s more of getting real opinions from regular match going fans. I don’t think it’s pushed in the same way as AFTV either. He’s not blasting it on YouTube for views & money. I don’t think your comment needed to be jumped on though, as it was fairly clearly a throwaway comment without much thought. At least you replied though, unlike others who don’t when questioned.

I’m fairly lukewarm on Mitten. A good journalist in terms of having connections but I don’t think he offers a lot more than that. A good man to talk about the past and to tell a story or share stories of others etc and in that sense I find him quite limited, which isn’t necessarily a criticism either. He’s very experienced and definitely knows how to manage his journalism output with maintaining relationships - I don’t think he’s being overly cautious on SJR or INEOS though.

I’ve kind of gone off that TOTD podcast a bit - they can be great for an inside scoop but there’s a bit of arrogance there that bothers me for some reason - I just stick to reading the articles now.