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The Decline of Religion

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  • #122
    Hotblack Desiato
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    Mount Melleray has closed. This is the sort of fun palace my parents thought was a cool day trip when we were on holiday.

    https://archive.ph/KubRb#selection-1539.0-1539.289

    My dad was always slightly cynical about the religion thing (which my mother bought hook line and sinker), he called them the Nastursiums 😁

    I'm partial to your abracadabra,

    I'm raptured by the joy of it all.



  • #123
    Igotadose
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123100095#Comment_123100095

    Opulent looking place, must be some spend to keep it going. Collection plates ftw.

    If they want it redone, just let the word out that there will be refugees housed there. The woman running the bookshop isn't any authority. Once that word is out, the locals will take care of the demolition.

    And they let people in with dogs, too. Nice.



  • #124
    Hotblack Desiato
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    The Franciscans announced the closure of their friary in Clonmel, resulting in a sit-in!

    https://www.rte.ie/news/munster/2025/0123/1492564-clonmel-protest/

    The High Court managed to persuade them to vacate just in time to avoid the arrival of Storm Eowyn.

    I'm partial to your abracadabra,

    I'm raptured by the joy of it all.



  • #125
    robindch
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    Can't say the creator of the universe is doing much to preserve his brand in Ireland.



  • #126
    breezy1985
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123108365#Comment_123108365

    It's amazing that any time you speak to the devout they tell you that their church is "packed" or has "full attendance".

    It must be just all the ones I pass on a Sunday that are empty.



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  • #127
    robindch
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    In fairness, taking a flexible approach to the truth is an ongoing issue with many churches.



  • #128
    smacl
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123115650#Comment_123115650

    Depends where. if I'm out cycling on Sunday, you'd often see a fair number of cars parked outside some rural churches, others look bordering on derelict. Only time I've ever been inside one has been for a wedding or funeral. I'd guess a lot of the generation now in there 60s, 70s and above are still regular attendees but most other folks only go out of duress.



  • #129
    ohnonotgmail
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123115587#Comment_123115587

    As Al Pacino said in The Devil's Advocate

    He’s an absentee landlord



  • #130
    NIMAN
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123115735#Comment_123115735

    Unless you are under 15yrs of age, people shouldn't be going out of duress.

    You either believe in God and go to church, or don't and stay at home. No-one, especially any adult, should be forced to do something they don't want to do.



  • #131
    Hotblack Desiato
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    Most outlets will have fewer (some, a lot fewer) services per weekend than they did in the past. So a not-too-badly attended service is, on its own, an anecdote, it's not data…

    I'm partial to your abracadabra,

    I'm raptured by the joy of it all.



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  • #132
    Hotblack Desiato
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123118632#Comment_123118632

    There'd be even fewer church weddings, and a lot fewer baptisms / FHCs going in if it was really the case that nobody was acting under duress.

    Things are changing though, someone who was at best lukewarm about religion and rarely attended church themselves is not really in a position to insist that their grandchildren get the whole nine yards

    I'm partial to your abracadabra,

    I'm raptured by the joy of it all.



  • #133
    Igotadose
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    FHC ahh First Holy Communion. Took me a minute.



  • #134
    smacl
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123118632#Comment_123118632

    I'd guess very many people attending church do it out of a sense of tradition coupled with duty to their family or community rather than strong religious conviction. Many of us over the age of 15 are coerced into doing things we don't want to do very regularly, whether it is working a job we don't like to pay the bills, cleaning up after our kids, visiting the other half's parents, doing college exams, etc. You could argue for distinguishing what is necessary from what is not, but many things fall under the idea of a duty of care or kindness for others we love. Getting dragged to the church or mosque when you'd really rather not falls into this category.



  • #135
    robindch
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    Pope Frank's hat has been hung up for him for the very last time ever.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/live/crknlnzlrzdt



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