Manchester United Thread 25/26 - Teamtalk/Transfers/Gossip Mod Note in OP 26.09.24

Tis a fine stadium anyway lads

What makes it more difficult to understand is ETH had issues with Ronaldo and Sancho but made it very clear with them.

I suppose Rashford did play well for him in his 1st season and yes with a lack of attacking options it likely meant ETH felt he almost had to work Rashford in somehow and maybe always had it in the back of his head that if he can just get him back on track he could get that player from year 1 back.

But some of the stuff I've seen on the pitch from Rashford over the last 18 months has been criminal.
That's what he's willing to show in public as well. **** knows what effort (lack of) he puts in behind the scenes and at training.

The fact we can't score a goal now and Rashford still can't motivate himself to get back on that pitch says it all really.
It's not like he's stuck behind a 30 goal a season player who's keeping him out of the team with little hope of getting in.

If he stuck the head down and applied himself he'd be back in the side in no time.

It comes down to time really, after all the different debacles he had to deal with EtH just thought he had to at least make the best of it with Rashford, and then the two years ticks by and peoples patience runs out and when you analyse it EtH was probably still dealing with issues that he shouldn't have to be dealing with right up to the end. It was one thing after another, sure he was still fielding questions about Sancho at the start of this season.

The Amad thing was baffling though.

Amorim has to deal with whatever issues he has with any players as quickly as possibly. Get rid and start fresh because if any dodgy relationships linger on into season two and things aren't going too great, the mobs thirst for something shiny and new will kick in.

Bang on, Zirkzee with 2 paceys AMs would be a delight.

The wingbacks aren't holding the width in the final third and failing to make enough runs in behind. They are supposed to do this to create space for the 10s which in turn will help the CF.

Imo many of our problems can be attributed to a lack of attacking quality in the wingback positions.

Anyway if we don't get adequate reinforcements in the final few days of the window then RA will have to change system or lose his job. Not change the style he wants to impose (possession+ control oriented) but he will have to drop the wingbacks - because he will not be trusted with a Summer window if the current trajectory continues. The attack performance levels are way too far off. If we had lost to Fulham playing that way rather than fluking a 1-0 win, I think it would've been an inflection point. He's clearly a talented manager but he needs to find a way to grip the situation because he's not far away from it spiralling out of his control.

Amorim won't and absolutely shouldn't change his formation or demands. He publicly made it clear when he signed that he would play his way, I'd imagine he also made that clear to Wilcox, Berrada etc too. For too long we've accommodated average players and players with piss poor attitudes. Whether we finish 6th or 17th makes no fcking difference. The summer will see big changes regardless, of that I'm confident.

He can play his way but adjust the formation - like pretty much every other manager going.

He will end up sacked then.

He doesn't have Pep style money to replace the entire team, not now and not in the summer either.

He doesn't have the players to suit his system and 3 months in he has done a shite job of converting them into his system.

If he can't replace the entire team and he can't get them playing better than this, then he ends up sacked. I'm not saying I want him sacked, I'm saying its the end result of all of this.

Its a crying shame United wasted so much money before he ever came to the club, but it is what it is and he needs to work with what he has.

Both Ten Hag and Ashworth were gone with months of signing contracts, how did their conversations go? Why would it be a shock for INEOS to do it again with Amorim?

Imo I think it will seriously affect the quality of player the club will be able to attract during the Summer if we finish in the bottom half of the table.

Put yourself in the place of a player/players agent that Utd begin to chase this Summer.

They will factor in how Amorim has managed this Season (with a squad admittedly that he didn’t assemble)……they will assess if Utd offer them a decent chance at winning things.

They will be more likely to believe in Amorims project if they see that gradually he got to grips with the style of play in the PL and had the team playing better from February on……and climbing into the top 8 by Seasons end.

If however they see Amorims presence had a negligible affect on the team’s performance and final league position,will they be as interested in joining his project?

I like how Amorim explains why he is doing certain things but he can only get a free pass for so long…..

It will be disappointing, nay embarrassing if we finish the Season hovering above the bottom 3.

For Utd to have a decent chance of a better second half of the Season,

1-We need a decent striker brought in urgently on loan,Nkunko would fit the bill,has to be other decent options out there as well.

2-Need someone reliably capable of playing LWB…..not gone on Dorgu from what I’ve seen of him.

3- Unfortunately Casemiro's Saudi interest was only fleeting……if he had gone we would have had much more flexibility in this transfer window.

Fingers crossed we get a striker and LWB in the next few days!!😉

He's not in danger at the moment but the current direction isn't good. Performances are generally getting worse rather than better and he was already starting from a low base. I remember the first half in the league game v Arsenal a couple of months ago. The team was still toothless in attack but there were some nice patterns in build up emerging and a clear possession + control oriented style was evident. But we haven't actually seen much of that since, which is a worry.