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⚠️ Storm Éowyn - Fri 24.01.25 (**Please read Mod Instruction in OP.**)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,270 ✭✭✭Wompa1


    Beats me. I don't work for the ESB. My brother has been told his fault will be prioritized because the school is impacted but if they could indicate where the priority lies, it could help those of us without power to make informed decisions. I can afford a couple of nights in a hotel but I can't swing 8 nights so I would need to be smart about it. Probably stay home for the weekend when rates are highest but if I book for the rest of this week and power comes back, I won't be able to cancel without incurring at least some of the cost. I heard from the receptionist at a nearby hotel that demand is already high due to people resorting to hotels.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 12,636 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 396 ✭✭Banzai600


    ive not scrolled through every page here, but there seems to be a vast contrast of ppl's experience from what i can see, re the severity of the storm. Some ppl in Dublin say they felt nothing, i thought our windows were going to go, they were bellowing that much, never ever seen that before. It was really bad from around 0830 - 1130am Friday. And a few ppl i know down south east said it wasnt too bad for them?

    a couple of ppl through work from Clare to Galway, got hammered. Tiles off rooves, gardens / fences thrashed etc, pretty badly, with power out for a couple of days, no water, or phone signal. But not as bad as some others with major structural damage to their homes / properties. i dont know what sort of beefing up you can do, but id be aware of whats swaying around me for a start.

    rural areas are particularly vulnerable, and i think the state should step in to see what can be learned further from this. As it will no doubt happen again. I not saying free money all round, we have enough of this carry on already, but the state has an obligation to rural areas irrespective of population density / their geographical location to assist more - how im not sure, burying power lines could be a start if possible ? Costly i know. And emergency water tankers on standby from councils in local areas - im not sure if they had deployed any last week / weekend to any areas ?

    If i was in rural ireland or living on the south and west coasts , id be buying a decent generator ( many have these already) have a large water butt to store rain water to flush waste and spare camping gas appliances for cooking. it will be a damn sight better than having nothing for a few days. Its a new reality i think. if it were worse and to last longer you'd wonder what state we would be in if it had of tracked more intensely through the country at a slower pace.

    and you have to commend the emergency crews for all their hard work as usual.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,716 ✭✭✭BrianD3


    If ESB failings and rotten poles have contributed to the damage, this is one big reason why the George Lee narrative that this was the most severe storm since 1839 or a "1 in 100 year event" needs to be challenged. Because if it isn't challenged, vested interests such as the ESB, Eir and government will spin it as being an unprecedented, extremely rare event, an Act of God.

    Are ESB poles preserved differently than they used to be? The preservative is nasty stuff.

    People are at fault too though. Every tree in this country is the responsibility of some person or organisation. People don't take responsibility for their trees just like they don't take responsibility for anything else (e.g. their dogs). A tall tree doesn't have to be overhanging a power line to take it down. Add in Ash Dieback into the mix. Also, a tree that blocks a road but doesn't take down a powerline may delay ESB crews getting to where they are needed.

    People who are ranting about Eamon Ryan etc. would want to take a look around their own area and see who in the locality owns trees that have come down and caused misery for everyone.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,789 ✭✭✭greenpilot




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  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Regional East Moderators, Regional North West Moderators Posts: 12,749 Mod ✭✭✭✭miamee


    I don't know yet, have rang the insurance company twice, both times they took my details and said someone from the claims team will call me back asap, can't actually get through to the claims team. I expect they are up to their eyes but only working Mon-Fri after a storm like that doesn't help.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 12,374 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kingp35


    What's the phone number for the automated service? Is that what you mean when you say it's more accurate than powercheck?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 307 ✭✭pauly58


    The top of our ESB pole came off a couple of years ago taking the cables with it, it was put up about 15 years ago & the pole was rotten. The lads that replaced it said it was a huge problem, a load of poles were frozen when they were treated with preservative & it didn't go into the pole.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83 ✭✭dairyedge


    I’ve also/continue to suffer brief power outages. Easily over 30 a year. Where power goes off for a second or 2 or longer. Some days can happen 3 or 4 times. They don’t know what causes it. Can damage expensive equipment. They need to clear more branches near the line. This coming out every 4 or 5 years trimming the same branches is a waste of time. Just cut the tree and get it over with.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,994 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    No creosote, no rot, no replacement roundabout. I'm sure they are expensive but the bill from this mess and other storms will likely be more. Penny pinching might not be worth it.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,338 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    To be fair, it was an unprecedented event too. I am 50+ and I have never seen the likes of it. Not even close and I love a good storm. The damage done is hard to describe.

    The Mace Head record for wind gusts was 156 km/h. This storm hit 183 km/h before the station went dead. As Sryan predicted, the old record was smashed.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,884 ✭✭✭pureza


    Here in East Wicklow we were saved by the mountains and by the trajectory of the storm because its swathe of extreme winds were moving north as much as they were east

    That’s why the Southeast escaped

    Darragh was worse here by far,with multiple trees down and power out in parts of Wicklow for a week,this being the East

    Darwin had my power out for 5 days before an ESB crew got here,it was the worst daytime wind storm I’ve experienced



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,009 ✭✭✭✭Discodog


    Esb are torturing Spiddal. They said power would be on yesterday, then changed it to today. Now saying 5th of Feb.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,009 ✭✭✭✭Discodog


    Does anyone know an alternative to Powercheck?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,338 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    No comparison. Darragh was a big storm here but utterly tame in comparison to Eowyn. I think Darraghs highest wind gust was 141k, at Mace Head. Try adding another 42k.

    I drove 5 miles on Friday and saw 7 poles down. On the ground. That's unprecedented. I drove about 10 miles a different direction on Saturday and saw 5 more poles down. In all previous storms, you might see a pole or two down.

    As for trees down, this was off the scale. I had 3 old trees down on my 1 acre site alone. 2 more very damaged, probably will die. We were many many hours clearing the trees to the nearest village. They are down everywhere you look. 100+ in my local golf course.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 967 ✭✭✭Glenomra


    Interesting. My source said the problem is that the rot in a huge batch of imported poles is coming from moisture inside the pole leading to internal rotting. Though the pole looks perfect on the outside it's rotten. Also, that the ESB are aware of that but have decided that if the pole is less then 40% rotten it will not be replaced. Hence, so many poles being blown over unnecessarily.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,270 ✭✭✭Wompa1


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    Not the first! If its any help, a few places that got the dreaded Feb 5th estimate, already got power back.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,884 ✭✭✭pureza


    I saw all that during Darwin,multiple poles down near me

    I was not comparing either Darwin or Darragh, I hope you know to Éowyn which is undoubtedly worse than any storm in modern times to hit the country

    It’s not unique in it’s ferocity though,we are often blessed by storms of its nature staying way out over the Atlantic during winter

    They have formed before and will again

    Government should be giving grants and tax relief for anyone that wants a generator imho

    It’s less money than has been spent on lowering electricity bills in the last 3 winters



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,600 ✭✭✭fliball123


    sorry I beg to differ to some extent yes people are responsible for their trees but if the ESB have placed a cable running under or through someone's tree the ESB should be making sure the tree/cable are safe by topping the tree to a level beneath the cable. Currently they just bore a hole 3 meters around the cable which makes the trees structure very unreliable and is bound to have complications as the tree grows or rots. The ESB is also already been paid handsomely by the the owner of the tree for electricity and the ESB have the expertise for tree cutting. IMO the ESB need to get up off their overpaid holes and go on a serious drive to cut back trees that have their cables near them before the next storm.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,270 ✭✭✭Wompa1


    Sorry, yes. It seems to be updated more frequently or faster than Powercheck. 1800 372 999

    Don't bother calling if you don't have your MPRN though.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,249 ✭✭✭crusd


    I did drive past split pole yesterday that have a decent core about 4 inches across but the rest was pure rotten.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,249 ✭✭✭crusd


    Just on this - i know someone who was updated to the 5th yesterday but got power back a couple of hours ago. But people 200 yards down the road are still out. As they solve one problem the next reveals itself, so in essence if you are being told the 5th, they cant guarantee it will be back before the 5th, but it may well be



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,584 ✭✭✭happyoutscan


    Power gone again in our part of the world outside Westport.

    I'd guess - perhaps incorrectly - that it's a case of knocking ours out while they resolve a problem or get another line on?

    Can't complain though as we got ours back on Friday evening while the vast majority still haven't.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,716 ✭✭✭BrianD3


    And as you will have seen from Sryan's and Gaoth Laidirs posts this is far from the full story given that the exposed Mace Head station is only in operation since 2003 resulting in it not recording in the major storms of 1961, 1974, 1988, 1990, 1991, 1993, 1997, 1998.

    The gusts recorded for those 1961-1998 storms were similar to if not higher than the speeds for Eowyn. Therefore windspeeds for Eowyn were not unprecedented. This is very apparent from the storm tables. E.g Storm K in 1988, 13 out of 14 stations had red level gusts. Burns Day storm of 1990, Clones Co. Monaghan, recorded 174 km/h, a monstrous reading for an inland station.

    Even Mullingar station was into Red gust level for some of those 61-98 storms. Yellow for Eowyn. Yet, Mullingar area, like most other parts of the country has had major problems with power cuts. It may be fair to say that the powercuts are unprecedented but why is that. As I said, vested interests like politicians and the ESB wil use spin and deflection to distract from their own failings. This is exactly what the ESB, aided by useful idiot George Lee will do if it starts getting attention over avoidable failings such as rotten poles.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 248 ✭✭konman


    Only just got power back since 4.30am friday, we have had no water, network signal since Friday. there was no signal around large areas around Tuam. Had to drive to 5k to Tuam to get a signal. No network signal from Tuam to Claremorris up to this morning. There was 22 trees down on a 5k stretch from home to Tuam alone. This the worst storm I've experienced since xmas eve 1997. Extensive damage down around my area, so many roofs damaged or in some cases blown off. So many roof tiles on the streets of Tuam friday morning. Some trees were just snapped and others uprooted. I have pictures but wont get a chance to upload for a day or 2.I haven't had a chance to read back through the thread so don't know if my experience matches what others did. Just said id report what I experienced.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,572 ✭✭✭testtech05


    Sounds similar to what we experienced too between Ballinrobe and Clonbur/Cong. The amount of trees and poles down are like nothing I have ever seen before. Our estimated restore time keeps getting pushed out too, has just been changed again from tonight to Thursday night…. The only comfort is our water supply so far hasn't been interrupted but we are calling in favours from friends and family now to try and get back to work etc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,338 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    "If not higher"?

    Mace head just recorded the strongest ever gust of wind in Ireland (183 km/h). It broke Debbie's record from 1961.

    I believe it also broke the sustained winds record in Ireland (135 km/h I think).

    No other storms were higher since records began.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,009 ✭✭✭✭Discodog


    Just called the 1800 number, gave my morn & they say no fault. I entered a fault & maybe this is a reason why the number of fault aren't going ip



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 415 ✭✭PixelCrafter


    There are a couple of points to get through to people though:

    1) Ireland has EXTREMELY low density scatter populations due to decades of bad planning - that is a huge part of why utilities are so hard to restore quickly - there are thousands of faults in random locations

    2) We've effectively been through an almost hurricane-like storm. We don't seem to like using terms like 'natural disaster' as those are something that we seem to think only happens somewhere else and sound too high drama. This is literally a natural disaster level event. We are underplaying it as a bit of a breeze in the way it's being discussed. In some cases, people are going to be without electricity for a prolonged time and we need to be doing more to ensure they're OK - warm, have access to food and water.

    I'm not getting the sense that the government is reacting in a big enough way and the communication needs to improve urgently, particularly some kind of a centre getting info out from the ESB and Irish Water.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 99 ✭✭goldsparkle


    I am disgusted with the government/local authority response to this. Any help has been done on a local/community spirit level and there was no other help or assistance.



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