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Calving 2025

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,285 ✭✭✭Who2


    Putting charolais on any first calver is madness. Age or not they need to push the first calf out to widen up . That’s just my opinion and nothing technical but I’d always go saler or easy calving limo. I tried a few easy calving Simmentals but the y were trouble too. Combine the breeding and ad lib silage feeding and you are nearly guaranteed hassle.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 955 ✭✭✭Sugarbowl


    I also go with Angus for first calving… you’re not a fan? I’ve often had a good lump of a saler even though they easy calving.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,460 ✭✭✭TinyMuffin


    25 heifers incalf here to an Angus bull.
    They’ll be getting a kg or 2 of rolled oats for a month before calving. Massive help.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86 ✭✭alan10


    Used him plenty over the years on LM, SIM, CH, AA, HEX and never any bother. Came out easy (maybe even small) but put on nice shape after few weeks and then took off.
    But never used on heifers, all above were 2+ calvers



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,285 ✭✭✭Who2


    I don’t mind Angus in the right situation but they just don’t fit into what I’m at so I stay away from them. I calve my heifers down to saler and lim and if I get nice heifers I keep them on for cows. I run a Charolais bull as main breed on farm and anything with Angus doesn’t suit me. The colour is the main thing and they usually lack any sort of decent power or confirmation.
    The closest I’d go to Angus is stabiliser as I’ve seen a few lads get class results with stabiliser cows put to a ch bull.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,158 ✭✭✭tellmeabit




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,285 ✭✭✭Who2


    sorry I thought it was a heifer. But in general he’d be a very easy calver.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,285 ✭✭✭Who2


    was the cow dry for a long time?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,848 ✭✭✭Dunedin


    have a cow with twins , 2 weeks old. One twin wouldn’t suck the cow for the first week. Have him going now but have to put her in head gate with nuts, she’s kicking him away when in the pen.
    No problem with the other lad as she lets him suck away. It’s her 4th calf and is normally a very quiet cow

    Any suggestions?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,588 ✭✭✭tanko


    She’ll never take to him, you’ve got yourself a pet calf.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,466 ✭✭✭Hard Knocks


    possibly, I’d try closing both away and let sick morning and evening first



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,848 ✭✭✭Dunedin




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,253 ✭✭✭minerleague


    If you can get them to a couple weeks old the second calf will learn to suck from behind cow when they see first calf sucking, happened here before. As long as they don't get kicked so much they get afraid to try



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,158 ✭✭✭tellmeabit




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 228 ✭✭V6400


    Is she viciously kicking or just to stop him sucking? Sometimes the best option is in a pen with other cows and close calves away except to suck a few times a day, in the commotion of all calves going in to suck at the same time the cows often dont care what calf or how many of them sucks her.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,848 ✭✭✭Dunedin


    not viciously kicking but what I noticed on Saturday if I let in the weak lad first in his own, she’s grand with him but then kicks away the second lad when I’d let him in.

    Anyways, have both taken away and let in twice a day. Give her nuts through the calving gate and she lets both suck without a bother. Will leave it like that for a few more days and then give her the nuts without the head gate and see how she goes. 🤞🤞



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,158 ✭✭✭tellmeabit


    Last year I noticed that if the cows were left short on silage, once they had feed pushed to them that all calves scrambled to find a teat, any that would do and the cows were none the wiser.

    I'd say in time the cow will twig that she has 2 calves and be grand again



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,166 ✭✭✭White Clover


    I’d say land one of the calves in to the mart in a week and collect your €500.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,848 ✭✭✭Dunedin


    better chance of Bass getting into sucklers than that happening 😂😂😂

    I’ll persevere amongst many expletives and then forget all about it next summer when I’m happily herding in the long glorious summer evenings…….



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,888 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    It's a question of who is more stubborn, you or the cow? Stick with them. Maybe try and keep the stronger calf nearer her head, so she only see's him, when she looks back.

    I've heard you say many times that you're better than no one
    And no one is better than you
    If you really believe that you know you have nothing to win
    And nothing to lose



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 201 ✭✭Diarmuid B


    I’ve had that issue a couple of times with cows having twins or first calvers not taking to the calf. Pure stubbornness, put cow in crush for a few weeks to let the calves suck. Throw meal into trough and a few big stones so she has to work to get the meal and stretch it out longer. Unless the cow is an absolute b**** they’ll come good after a couple of weeks



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,715 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    How about putting a jacket on the calf she likes would that make a difference or vinegar on both their backs so they smell the same



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,715 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    Vet job here this morning pedigree angus calf coming backwards. All good



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,888 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    Was it a case of not being able to reach the calf, or was it just to big?

    I've heard you say many times that you're better than no one
    And no one is better than you
    If you really believe that you know you have nothing to win
    And nothing to lose



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,715 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    Too big. Big arse on it. Alot going on here atm so I just got vet. I'd never have calved it



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,888 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    Right decision so. Some times it is impossible to reach the calf, even for those with long arms.

    I've heard you say many times that you're better than no one
    And no one is better than you
    If you really believe that you know you have nothing to win
    And nothing to lose



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,753 ✭✭✭Anto_Meath


    I find it is always a good call to get the vet and they land a live calf when you are any bit unsure.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,848 ✭✭✭Dunedin


    it’s always the temptation to chance it. I’ve got away with it a few times but probably should have called vet. No fun with calf stuck at hips and man and beast under pressure



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,311 ✭✭✭Lime Tree Farm


    @Dunedin How is the 2nd twin doing now.

    Haven't tried it but read somewhere that pouring some of her own urine on their bums helps the cow recognise her own calves when she sniffs them.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,715 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    Calf that was born this morning



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