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Donald Trump the Megathread part II - mod warnings in OP, Updated 18/03/25

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,394 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    Assuming the child was born to Mexican etc… parents, would the child not also be entitled to Mexican citizenship?

    It's a moot point anyways, he won't get past the constitutional change without the Supreme Court going against logic…. which isn't that far fetched though!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,109 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    It's uncomfortable and nasty but now we are seeing the US starting to throw it's weight around - diplomacy is out the window - they can do what they want. The Danes can pretend they are in some sort of "negotiation" but they aren't and the EU commission will talk rubbish but there is nothing anyone can do.

    I don't agree with this approach myself. I don't agree with the US simply taking Greenland. However I would say all those around the world who take advantage of the US (and insult them) are on notice. It's America First.

    We are in firing line too. It's going to get rough I think. Good for the USA, bad for the rest of the world.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,734 ✭✭✭20silkcut




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,451 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    The U.S. attitude of out to get everyone and be the big bully boy will damage them and isolate them as much has hurt those they are targeting.

    It’s simple: people, ideally crave stability and harmony, albeit plenty love aggro and hostility. But for an “easy” life, diplomacy and coming together is the only way. Trump is just utterly dangerous and averse to to this



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,033 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    "Good for the USA, bad for the rest of the world."

    Entirely foreseeable and would make you wonder at the short-sighted approach by posters in this country cheering him on just because he "winds up people they don't like".

    Clearly that's more important to them than direct harm to their interests...

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,572 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    Yep long term this approach is just gonna the US less and less relevant to international order. It's similar to how Brexit made the UK far less influential.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 933 ✭✭✭Detritus70


    Trump could have one beneficial side effect, all the US allies will realise that the US is not a reliable partner or ally and they will work closer together, isolating the US. This will weaken the US and strengthen the rest of the world.

    Good for us, bad for them.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,623 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    Delusional comments. Like it or not, no one is isolating the US and they will continue to be extremely relevant in the world. It's one presidential term. 4 years. Same as has happened many times in most of our lives. Its not the end of the world fgs.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,572 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    Global and political trust in the US drastically declined during his first term so I wouldn't say another four years of being more deranged is gonna help. The US is in decline that's how plenty view it.

    Post edited by eightieschewbaccy on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,599 ✭✭✭Hamsterchops


    I'd say he has wrist cramp from signing all those Executive orders on Monday. From DEI to new Passports & everything else in between, he's been a busy old bee 😊



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,409 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    Dictators ran rings around him and the US allies literally laughed at him during global summits.

    It pretty much spelled the end of his daughters political attempts on the bring your child to work day at the UN.

    I don't think a lot of the US realise how pathetically weak trump is seen on the world stage.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,627 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    They don't care. Trump himself wins either way. He either looks like an imbecile in the global stage and plays the victim card with MAGA or he does something atrocious and gives his base that special feeling.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,016 ✭✭✭✭briany


    Putin: "Ah, Donald! My friend. My idol. My... Those hands.... So large. So masculine. Did I hear correctly that you're a good enough golfer to join the PGA?"

    Trump: "I want to help you bomb Ukraine."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,638 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    The passport one is particularly nasty. Can't have an X for your gender now and they've put holds on all passport applications that do. Those lawsuits need to speed up to unjam that. The passports aren't "new," your rights to them as transgendered are reduced. But, there aren't that many transgendered people so they're a convenient minority to scapegoat by the GQP and their Evangeliban backers. Pure late-1920's Germany politics.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,572 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    I have a strong impression that he's gonna spend the next four years complaining about being a victim tbh.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,144 ✭✭✭ilkhanid




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,327 ✭✭✭fly_agaric


    Fairly defeatist and weak. Assuming the US doesn't just send their (storm!)troops in and sieze it (nobody can stop that, they can only react to it afterwards), there's lots that can be done.

    If the US tariffs Danish products or imposes some other economic sanctions targetting Denmark, there will be an EU economic counter to that. Trade between its members and rest of the world is its core business. It will step up and defend a member under attack like that.

    I suppose the Danes can start making things more difficult and expensive for the base the US has in Greenland, within the law + whatever agreements they have with the US.

    It's really wonderful that despite your support for/approval of Trump, you don't agree with the US robbing territories and people off its own NATO allies, shítting all over the UN charter in the exact same way as Russia does. There are a few lights on at home.

    The Danes never insulted the US or took advantage of them that I can recall. I think their govt.'s have probably been some of the most US supportive ones in the EU, would be closer to the likes of the UK (pre Brexit) or indeed ourselves, than to France say.

    None of this nonsense with Trump going after the USs traditional allies is actually "good" for the US. It is great for dictators (and fascist sympathisers in democracies) all over the world I think, and those who hate the US, its allies, and the post WW2 orgs. and international system. It is really bad for any small and weak country (like Ireland). These will be fair game in world without any rules except power, who has the biggest gun basically, where the ends justify all means.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,627 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,924 ✭✭✭✭A Dub in Glasgo




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,016 ✭✭✭✭briany


    This probably won't happen because the right-wing populist agenda currently driving the US has two prongs. One is on the domestic front, but the other focuses on funding sympathetic politicians and parties around the world. Steve Bannon, for one, has been pretty open about his work of undermining the democracies of Europe.

    https://www.politico.eu/article/us-steve-bannon-elon-musk-wealth-and-influence-are-weapons-to-advance-maga-aligned-goals-in-europe/

    If we think that Europe is going to be some kind of bastion against Trump's America, we should temper that by remembering that there are 3 big players in the continent of Europe (France, Germany & the UK), and the first two are teetering on the right-wing populist precipice themselves, and it seems almost inevitable that this is what they're going to fall into pretty soon.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,238 ✭✭✭✭extra gravy


    I think this is my favourite so far...

    Trump’s ‘Gender Ideology’ order creates a federal mandate defining gender as the sex of an embryo at conception.

    Impacts: As all embryos have female sex characteristics at conception, all Americans are now defined as female under this order.

    😂😂😂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,535 ✭✭✭techdiver


    https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3lgjpp7jh7n2m

    So who are the posters who claimed he isn't a complete moron?

    The worst part is you have millions of people who hang on his every word and what he says is their "truth" and there will be no shaking them of the bullshit.

    Edit: Attaching screenshot for those who don't have Bluesky.

    Screenshot_20250125_123530_Bluesky.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,836 ✭✭✭Nermal


    It's the opposite of short-sighted. He legitimises and empowers the causes we want to see advanced in our own countries and elsewhere around the world.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,627 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    Standard quisling stuff. Fawning over Trump knowing full well that if Trump brings back US investments, Ireland will be particularly badly hit. All just to gloat on here.

    Anyway, the EU has a tried and tested strategy for dealing with US tariffs. What they do is look at what the US produces and exports to the EU on a state-by-state basis and impose tariffs designed to hit red states hard. They then just sit back and let the relevant members of Congress do the rest.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,535 ✭✭✭techdiver


    This is the problem when you have decision makers with no skills or achievements other than being born rich and with a elevated sense of their own intelligence. Dumb people who thought they were clever were laughed at in the past. Now they run the world. Just look at all the right wing podcasters and influencers. Articulate idiots are a danger.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,572 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    That you personally want to see advanced, doesn't mean it's gonna be well received on an international scale. Also in general most nations don't want billionaire oligarchs defining policies which is in effect what's happening. The US is in decline and Trump is a symptom.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 240 ✭✭Seattle


    Is there a compelling argument to suggest that Trump won’t attempt to rig the 2028 election if he has the opportunity? Do people believe he wouldn't try, or that he wouldn’t succeed? It seems clear to me that he would attempt it, which shifts the focus to what could prevent him. Over a four-year term, he has ample time to consolidate power by placing loyalists in key institutional positions. Whether or not he runs in 2028 might not even matter—Trumpism has thoroughly reshaped the Republican Party into a MAGA movement. For Trump, any defeat would likely be taken personally, motivating him to do whatever it takes to win.

    There doesn’t seem to be enough discussion or consideration about 2028 yet, particularly the viability of a free and fair election. It’s hard to see what Democrats or their supporters could realistically do to stop such a scenario. The ultimate and most extreme response—civil war—feels implausible, given that MAGA supporters are far more likely to own firearms and show a willingness to use them. In that sense, the balance of power tilts heavily in their favor, making any resistance through force seem unlikely.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,033 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    "Is there a compelling argument to suggest that Trump won’t attempt to rig the 2028 election if he has the opportunity? "

    He already did it in 2020. He was impeached for it.

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 240 ✭✭Seattle


    He didn't. He tried to overturn the result of the 2020 election but he was not able to rig the election itself.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,033 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    He tried to blackmail Ukraine into making stuff up about Biden.

    That is rigging the election.

    He rigged the election too in 2016 by entering into a conspiracy with Pecker to bury certain stories and then covering up the payment.

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



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