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Suggestion: - Ban 'X' Links, embeds and screenshots on Boards.ie?

  • 23-01-2025 03:34PM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,372 ✭✭✭


    Reddit is in the process of doing the same!

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    ^^ Link to above!

    https://goosed.ie/news/subreddits-mass-movement-to-ban-x-links/

    Reason for screenshots as well because:- "screenshots are easily manipulated"!

    Hopefully work to get 'Bluesky' Embeds enabled on the site is progressing @Boards.ie: Mike @awec

    Edit:- Sorry @Big Bag of Chips wasn't aware you had issues with the mod of r/ireland!

    ⓘ "At some point something inside me just clicked and I realized that I didn't have to deal with anyone's bullshit ever again."
    » “mundus sine caesaribus” «

    Post edited by corkie on


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,344 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    I disagree. Posters should be aware Twitter\X is a non-moderated social media source rather than equivalent to a 'proper' source such as BBC or whatever. It should be considered a "non reputable" source, but that doesn't mean it should be banned entirely.

    Embedding \ unfurling does seem to be slow so perhaps should be looked at on technical grounds?
    But I don't see major issues with linking to Twitter\X with a summary of the content - with above caveat it is a non reputable source.

    Even if banned direct linking, would be very hard to enforce someone posting…

    I'm reading that <something something something> on social media.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,621 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    The problem with linking to Twitter isn't so much questions about the reliability of the information. The problem is that every link is supporting a literal Nazi.

    With apologies to Mr Godwin.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 240 ✭✭Seattle


    There’s still a wealth of valuable information and useful legacy content on X, particularly in areas like gaming, where the platform remains popular. Unlike political spheres, which often descend into toxicity due to polarising opinions and heated debates, gaming communities tend to focus on shared interests, collaboration, and updates about games. That's just one example but there are others. I feel banning it whole would be throwing the baby out with the bath water.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,372 ✭✭✭corkie


    Edit: - Decide against running a poll on another platform!

    ⓘ "At some point something inside me just clicked and I realized that I didn't have to deal with anyone's bullshit ever again."
    » “mundus sine caesaribus” «



  • Administrators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 15,537 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Big Bag of Chips


    I'm not sure what your Edit is in reference to. I don't have a Reddit account. And have no interaction with moderators from there, that I am aware of.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,372 ✭✭✭corkie


    The mod of r/ireland message me on the platform and said he had not positive interactions on here with you? And was banned! And to be careful about advertising him here?

    ⓘ "At some point something inside me just clicked and I realized that I didn't have to deal with anyone's bullshit ever again."
    » “mundus sine caesaribus” «



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,802 ✭✭✭yankinlk


    there wont be as much legacy content soon as hordes of real (not bots) users are deleting accounts. with that deletion goes any of their useful content. i should know i deleted mine a week before the nazi salut.

    +1 for any ban on any forum anywhere for X/Twitter and throw in grok as well



  • Administrators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 15,537 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Big Bag of Chips


    I did not ban him, so can't comment on that. Any interactions I have in my capacity as moderator or Admin are public and viewable by all. I'm generally fair and willing to engage with posters who post in good faith. I'm sure some decisions I make annoy some people but I'm sure that's the same for every moderator on every site!

    Again, I'm not really sure what this is in reference to, or it's relevance to your OP!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,417 ✭✭✭...Ghost...


    Hilarious. People don't like the owner of a platform, so want to ban useful links to content on that platform which may be relevant to contributions being made here.

    I don't use X. I don't use reddit. But to suggest banning links to these sites is petty and weak minded. What next? Ban links to articles by the likes of Gript, or Rebel News, because you don't like them?

    I often use screenshots to post content, so I would be against that.

    If the mods want an easier life, then ban the CA forum. Absolute joke over there.

    Stay Free



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,344 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Its not just Musk's political actions.

    It is what he has done with the platform... gutted moderation, making a joke of the blue tick verified accounts so now you cant trust an account is actually for the named known person, allowed bots free reign.

    Disabling the unfurl / embedding should be considered in light of that and also it can slow down boards page loadings.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,802 ✭✭✭yankinlk


    i dont know him as a person so thats not my reason.

    personally I delted my account there becuase it became an unusable rubbish platform. took way too long for me to delete my account, hoped it would improve, but eventually gave up. dont see the point of linking to anything there unless u are pointing out how bad it is.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,372 ✭✭✭corkie


    Sorry @Big Bag of Chips I was probably trolled by that mod, and he sought me out from the link to the post above. I hadn't even posted on r/ireland. Just someone trying to create problems across the platforms. That's what I get from sharing my socials I guess.

    ⓘ "At some point something inside me just clicked and I realized that I didn't have to deal with anyone's bullshit ever again."
    » “mundus sine caesaribus” «



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 240 ✭✭Seattle


    Most people with valuable content aren’t deleting their accounts. Who cares if random, nobody users drop off?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,802 ✭✭✭yankinlk


    losing 2million plus random nobody users in 2 months https://www.theguardian.com/media/2024/dec/11/from-x-to-bluesky-why-are-people-abandoning-twitter-digital-town-square



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 240 ✭✭Seattle


    Out of how many millions?

    Do the Irish government for example still make announcements on the platform? Do respected publications still have a presence there?

    If so (and they do), then banning it on forums is way too premature. Maybe down the line, but not now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,372 ✭✭✭corkie


    @Seattle Do the Irish government for example still make announcements on the platform? Do respected publications still have a presence there?

    Unfortunately they still do! But it is a 'catch-22' situation, politicians and media are still there in the belief of getting their message across to a large audience, and user's are drawn to it because they still post there. But there is a shift on both fronts to 'Bluesky'!

    Meanwhile, the vast majority of poll respondents (66pc) believe politicians should stop publishing posts on X, formerly Twitter. Only 26pc don’t think politicians should stop using the platform and 8pts don’t know.

    The vast majority (80pc) believe X and Tesla owner Elon Musk - and other social media bosses like him - are a threat to democracy ~ https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/post-election-bounce-for-fianna-fail-and-fine-gael-but-support-for-independents-falls/a828658163.html

    Edit: -

    "We have to be there where people go for information," government spokesperson Steffen Hebestreit told reporters. "But, of course, you always have to ask yourself if the environment for it is still sustainable, and we are asking ourselves this question. So far, we have answered this by saying that the damage of withdrawing from this platform would be greater than the benefits."

    https://www.dw.com/en/as-musk-pushes-afd-german-officials-consider-ditching-x/a-71257278

    Post edited by corkie on

    ⓘ "At some point something inside me just clicked and I realized that I didn't have to deal with anyone's bullshit ever again."
    » “mundus sine caesaribus” «



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,293 ✭✭✭CalamariFritti


    Twitter was never a reputable source. In fact it's not a source at all it's a medium, big difference. And like with everything you read it's up to you to decide whether it's reputable or not. Its called media competence.

    As for he Nazi thing I 'm not so sure. Twitter used to control - heavily so according to some - what was allowed being posted. Now they do less so. How that alone makes them a Nazi thing I have no idea.

    And for the record Musk worries me. I used to think he was odd but probably alright, now I'm not so sure. But I dont think that warrants banning Twitter/X. In fact I think unless something is against the law it should not be banned. Banning is never good and achieves nothing anyway only more polarisation and less listening to each other. Look at where that got us.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,621 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    What makes them a Nazi thing is Musk doing his Nazi thing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,293 ✭✭✭CalamariFritti


    What Nazi thing is he doing?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,372 ✭✭✭corkie


    Start from this post on this 'X' Thread and scan the last four pages of the thread!

    What Planet do you live on, that you haven't heard it been mentioned in the media?

    ⓘ "At some point something inside me just clicked and I realized that I didn't have to deal with anyone's bullshit ever again."
    » “mundus sine caesaribus” «



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,293 ✭✭✭CalamariFritti


    I have heard of this I've seen it and I dont like the look of it. But I need more than that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,508 ✭✭✭batistuta9


    never heard of it either until this thread, not everyone is getting sucked into that American rep v dems crap.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,372 ✭✭✭corkie


    The Musk 'Salute' is only a recent reason for people leaving the platform.

    https://www.express.co.uk/news/us/2003157/elon-musk-inauguration-gesture

    Many people have voiced opinions on the decline of the platform and other reasons for leaving. Not going to rehash them here, but someone else might like to? Is not all just because of US politics, but a factor for some.

    As for media still using the platform, The Guardian has left, IrishExaminer post's more content on bluesky than there as well. And today:-

    Spain's most popular satirical online publication (similar to The Onion), El Mundo Today, quits Twitter and is now on Bluesky

    High ranking EU Politicians and our own President have accounts on bluesky now.

    https://bsky.app/profile/fiannafailparty.bsky.social

    See the 'eXodus/bluesky' thread for more examples.

    Edit: Was shared by me on the 'X' Thread!

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    Now a >NeoNazi< platform!

    Post edited by corkie on

    ⓘ "At some point something inside me just clicked and I realized that I didn't have to deal with anyone's bullshit ever again."
    » “mundus sine caesaribus” «



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,378 ✭✭✭archfi


    This is a pathetic attempt to deplatform links from a platform with one of the highest engagement. I watched as the 'organic campaign' began on r/ireland (not a poster there and most definitely not a reader now) and to say it was deranged and was brigaded is to put it mildly but reddit has massive problems with this attitude. It merely cuts off one of the biggest worldwide platforms as a reference point for views and opinions and news.

    Hopefully, boards.ie won't be brigaded over the most stupid reason ever manufactured or at least this month's most stupid manufactured reason.

    Nobody reasonable wants to go back to the days of the censor like it's 2020 and nobody reasonable would be pushing for it.

    <I don't want to be bombarded with ELoN iS a NaAZziI rubbish either, I've read too much and seen too much of the current anti-whatever campaign rubbish, thank you>

    A thing isn't what it says it is.

    A thing is what it does.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,605 ✭✭✭Tork


    I don't think X links should be banned, because there are still many reputable contributors there. What I would like to see less of is link dumping from all sites. If somebody just posts a link to an article and doesn't take the time to explain why somebody should read it, I scroll on by. Bombarding a thread with half a dozen articles from everywhere does not an argument make.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,378 ✭✭✭archfi


    A thing isn't what it says it is.

    A thing is what it does.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,036 ✭✭✭TokTik


    I don’t like it so let’s ban it is a pretty weak argument.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,605 ✭✭✭Tork


    I know but it still happens. Or someone posts half a dozen of them in their post and 2 lines of text.



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 18,421 Mod ✭✭✭✭Trigger


    Twitter/X is a huge medium in relation to football and Gaming (as said above) and banning this from Boards would hinder discussion on those forum. Maybe certain forums may like to ban it for various reasons but a blanket ban wouldn't work. The Soccer forum in particular is one of the more used forums on Boards and I would say the posters there would be against any such ban



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,378 ✭✭✭archfi


    There should be no link ban on one worldwide platform without banning all worldwide platforms.

    It's such a redditiculous thing and it would be a pity to see it taking shape on here.

    A thing isn't what it says it is.

    A thing is what it does.



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