General Premier League Thread 2024-25

The club needs a pure breakdown before it can be rebuilt. There was always going to be shite before it begins to get going again. There's so many over payed players who think they are better than they actually are.

I'm all behind him sticking to his guns and not suiting to the players. Either get with the program or get the f**k out. The amount of managers we've had in the last 10 years with all types of pedigree have done that and it has never worked.

This is long term rebuild and not a rebuild that's been thrown about before but a proper go from the bottom up and it's going to take time.

Yes results absolutely matter but the results not being got are weaseling out the players that have taken a ride from the club for too long or not pushing themselves hard enough.

How many times has a new manager been brought in and it's expected water to be turned in to wine within a season or 2 and suddenly we're back. Nah, this team and club need to be torn from the bottom to the top and get with the times.

Season is a write off with the league but if it shows the absolute bare bones of the problems then that's an improvement and can hopefully improve next year. We've been covering over the cracks for too long and it's showing now.

ETH was riddled with half a team of injuries last season and he got roasted for bad results.

Outside looking in, Ange does more damage to himself with his press conferences more than anything.

Heaton, Evans, Eriksen & Lindelof expiring in the summer.

Need to be gone would be Rashford who is contracted until 2028 and Casemiro 2026. Antony is another I guess and he’s 2027. Talks of him being loaned to Betis until the end of the season.

Luke Shaw who is regularly injured is on the books until 2027…. Mount in the same category is 2028.

Who has he slated though? He's called out standards not being met not individuals.

Mourinho was far worse and blantenly called out players

I don’t disagree with you re the Ange comment.

It’s a dire statement on society and media (as if they were ever anything but bottom feeding scum) that an honest man is in some part ridiculed for being so.

Regardless, they would find some reason to ridicule him if that was their intention anyway.

I just can’t believe that a ‘high ranking’ pundit hasn’t been banging the drum about the injuries they have. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a squad missing so many first team players yet still expected to get results.

First choice - GK, CB, CB, LB, CM and now striker.

Second choice - GK, CB/LB.

I’m not a fan so I could be missing some off the top of my head.

Also while trying to introduce some new young signings that haven’t had a chance to settle. They’ve had to go straight in to the team. They look very very decent talents too.

I just find it bizarre.

After hearing the opposite from ten Hag for a significant period of time, hearing a bit of honesty and realism from a manager is refreshing to many United fans, hopeful or not. Nobody is interest in hearing the same old tired rehashed excuses anymore.

I just had a quick look at their thread and it seems the fans want him gone. If I was a Spurs fan I would be looking at the owners. The manager would pretty much get a free pass.

We’ve all seen the tables re club wage bill and how they usually reflect where teams finish in the league.

There are similar tables for clubs injuries and they also have an impact on where teams finish but never seem to be talked about.

Nuno is currently admired for what he is achieving. If he had the same injuries as Spurs then he would be at the lower end and fans would be probably calling for his head. Coincidentally he was hounded out at Spurs. So he wasn’t the problem.

Anyway, the lack of respect and abuse Postecoglou receives just seems bizarre to me.

Ange doesn’t help himself though. His focus on the singular was he wants to play, regardless of injuries, has resulted in some really poor results and makes him come across as limited.

I understand he has a way he wants to play and results will have to be sacrificed while the players learn it but at some point you’ll need to adapt your vision if it simply isn’t working - and spurs have been far too inconsistent to suggest it does work, and he’s had more than enough time for his players to understand what he wants from them.

Injuries aren’t an excuse either, everyone will have injuries. Not doing anything and just taking losses for a hypothetical greater good is poor management.

I like the football he tries to play and I think he’s a very refreshing voice in the PL but he team isn’t seeing improvement. No need to sack him immediately or anything but if spurs do pull the trigger it’s an understandable decision.

In this case, injuries are a very definite excuse. Spurs were missing 8 likely starters today along with three other squad members. The number of absentees per match has been in double figures every game for the last two months. It's not just one game.

How would Arsenal be doing if they were missing Raya, Gabriel & Saliba for over two months?

Spurs can barely rotate any players while playing twice a week so the ones who are playing are in turn more likely to be injured .

How big a squad should a team have to be able to cope with this? I've heard Guardiola & other top managers say the ideal is a squad of about 25 as anything more is too unwieldy. That would leave about 14 players available for 15-20 matches over 2 months. Very difficult for any team to cope under those circumstances.

Wouldn't say 8, Vicario, VDV, Bentacur and Solanke would be spot on in but

Gk for GK fair enough

VDV would be in but has been found out as well, Gray got a slaughtering today

Bentacur the main missing piece. It's changes the dynamic big time as Madison played behind a fit Solanke with them Son on the left.

Bergvall probably loses out then but he was one of the better players today.

That's me looking in, I wouldn't mind a Spurs supporter coming in and saying something. I don't follow them so would like to hear their pov.

Think the injury excuse is a bit excessive. We had it last year at UTD under eth and he got roasted and he had a worse injury first squad list imo.

A lot of Anges issues is on him, coming out and saying

"I always win a trophy by my second season"

Very silly stuff to say and the guy should know better.

I do hope he stays on because I like a good redemption arc and he doesn't seem like the worst, needs a ton of media training though as the English press take everything to hand.

Yoro is a young talent. Maz has been a blinding signing from r 15 mil. Maguire is better at a back 3.

Problem is the left side. Have RB playing that side.

Onana was baught for ETH passing out the back but that's all he seems to be good at. He's not a consistent GK but that might also stem from the amount on how it is easy for the opposite press to unlock to the UTD goal.

Have a solid back 3 but it's the wing backs that dont rush up and back enough.

A striker like Oshimen and a say Alphonso Davies at lb would change this team completely in the short term.

I don’t understand this.

Any game they have lost all season has been by the odd goal. Liverpool the only team to beat them by more than one goal.

As decimated as they are they recently beat Liverpool 1-0 in a first leg semi and only lost 2-1 to Arsenal away in the league.

This season they have beat Man City 0-4 away from home. Man U 0-3 away from home. Man City 2-1 at home. Villa 4-1 at home. Man U 4-3 at home. Not to be sniffed at. They have had a couple of **** results against Ipswich and Leicester away on opening day of the season. Also Everton this weekend.

If they were losing games by 2, 3 or more goals that’s one thing but they’ve only lost by more than 1 goal once against the top team in the league.

As decimated as they have been the club haven’t been ready to ease the load. No signings (bar the necessary GK) so far this window and no sign of any. Meanwhile Pep has made 3 already with a 4th in the pipeline. More could come. Also the new Haaland contact.

Spurs owners talk big but no real sign of it and they’re more than happy for the manager to take all the focus.

I hope he gets some players back and finishes the season well. I also hope they win the league cup.

For the most part I think a lot of fans, from all clubs, are a bit crazy/unrealistic.