Hamas strike on Israel - mod warning in OP updated 19/10/23

A benefit of this ceasefire is that the left can now turn their attention to other conflicts around the world and keep us informed about them.

I'm referring to what South Africa is doing right now - cosying up to modern-day genocidal dictators (such as Putin and Xi), tacitly, or in the case of the EFF, actively, supporting all of them.

Interesting - so are you saying you're comfortable with Israel wiping out everyone in the region to certain those "enemies" never threaten them again? And for the record - you are the one selecting "Jews" - everyone else talks about "Israel" which of course has Arab and other citizens.

As for Genocide, once again your obfuscation is utterly irrelevent. All signatory countries are required to raise issues with the ICJ if they see disregard for the conventions. SA raised such an issue which the ICJ agreed was plausible. They will adjudicate on the case in time.

The fact you don't like it or take it seriously is immaterial. And I believe there is a fear there of Israel being found to have committed genocide. So the current statements are to dismiss the actors as disingenuous or point out that other genocides are way worse.

You are preemptively defending Israel if they are found guilty of Genocide by dissing the process and the actors. We'll, let's wait and see. If you're right, Israel will be found not guilty if you're wrong, well, that'll be an interesting debate I reckon.

Why wait for the "left" (whoever that is)?

Do feel free to open your own threads on the other world's conflicts if you have a serious interest in informing yourself.

Spot on. Didn't one of the Israeli ministers have such withdrawal symptoms at the thought of the ceasefire that he said all aid going into Gaza should be stopped. The sick coward clearly wanted to keep murdering Palestinians.

And isn't it evident that all the pro Israelis, gushing over the pager bombs for example, have only wanted the destruction of Gaza since day one? Heck, they've even justified the raping of Palestinian prisoners.

If anyone has enjoyed posting about war and death has been the pro Israelis and of course the IDF tik tok war criminal stars.

What fact check? Only responded to this pile of nonsense posted by ...you...

That's all I did.

The images coming out of Gaza are amazing: barely hours into the ceasefire and the destroyed hospitals have been rebuilt, those genocide victims are looking remarkably hale and hearty and are even claiming victory in the war.

Compare with the victims of the actual genocide of Jews who were held in real concentration camps.

It’s almost as though there was no genocide of Palestinians and indeed no famine in the first place.

So are you saying that over 45,000 aren't dead….?

This ceasefire will break down in hours not days. And both will blame each other, Trump played his part, which is, get Israel to agreed to a ceasefire, get the hostages back, and then finish them off . That's what was sold to Benny Yahoo

Jaysus some of the posts today are beyond pathetic. Just plain weird.

Some people should listen to the Irish healthcare worker in Gaza from yesterdays radio program from 1-2. She works in a tented field hospital and outlined clearly how many people were malnourished, psychologically damaged and very cold at night because of the lack of shelter and clothes. Especially children. She said they cannot get necessary nutrients from just bread and rice and will have stunted growth. She was disgusted at the lack of aid being allowed in. She said she lost 6kg herself in 6 weeks and she is on full rations from her charity. She stressed over and over how incredible the native healthcare workers had been throughout the war. She was in awe of them because they had lost everything including their families. Real heroes.

But keep searching Twitter lads.

Let's get the international press in there eh.

A lot are suggesting that number will climb higher when they start going through the rubble. But good luck getting an answer.

And of course there are 110,000 injured, with a quarter of the wounded bearing life-changing injuries. Only muslims though.

Probably the crassest post in this thread.

I'm sure there are photographs of shredded babies, nuns with bullets in their heads, body parts strewn across masses of broken concrete and the like. Of course, they are not posted here. But you're happy to make some kind of point and post images of the starving victims of the Holocaust.

That must make you so proud of yourself.

There is no probably.

You believe that only Israelis were victims in this war, despite the fact that casualties in Gaza were nearly 50 times those of the Israelis? This is some crazy nihilistic rhetoric that you are giving, that a regime can be justified in carrying out multiple war crimes against civilians, providing they were provoked sufficiently.

The direct equivalent would have been the RAF carpet bombing West Belfast and the Bogside during the Troubles and killing tens of thousands of nationalists in response to the activities of the IRA.

Mod - warned for off topic NI discussion

Do you never get fed up with this kind of faux concern that you continually put forward? Or even embarrassed by it?

You may not like the obvious parallels being pointed out vis-a-vis two genocides. But they are there for all to see. Motivation, intention, result. You are free to pretend you don't see it because your "team" is committing the genocide now whereas it aligns itself with the victims of the other. But how can one claim perpetual victimhood and sympathy and looking for exceptions and allowances for something that happened to people 80+ years ago while doing even worse themselves today?