General Premier League Thread 2024-25

The IFAB clarified this a while back - It's one of the few black and white rules around handball offenses. Thats worldwide BTW

Various changes and clarifications to the Laws of the Game were agreed at the AGM, with a particular focus on Law 12 – Fouls and Misconduct.

As the interpretation of handball incidents has not always been consistent due to incorrect applications of the Law, the members confirmed that not every touch of a player’s hand/arm with the ball is an offence. In terms of the criterion of the hand/arm making a player’s body “unnaturally bigger”, it was confirmed that referees should continue to use their judgment in determining the validity of the hand/arm’s position in relation to the player’s movement in that specific situation.

Following this clarification, it is a handball offence if a player:

deliberately touches the ball with their hand/arm, for example moving the hand/arm towards the ball;
touches the ball with their hand/arm when it has made their body unnaturally bigger. A player is considered to have made their body unnaturally bigger when the position of their hand/arm is not a consequence of, or justifiable by, the player’s body movement for that specific situation. By having their hand/arm in such a position, the player takes a risk of their hand/arm being hit by the ball and being penalised; or
scores in the opponents’ goal:
-directly from their hand/arm, even if accidental, including by the goalkeeper; or
-immediately after the ball has touched their hand/arm, even if accidental.
Accidental handball that leads to a team-mate scoring a goal or having a goal-scoring opportunity will no longer be considered an offence.

https://www.thefa.com/football-rules-governance/lawsandrules/laws/football-11-11/law-12---fouls-and-misconduct#:~:text=Not%20every%20touch%20of%20a,the%20ball%20is%20an%20offence.&text=scores%20in%20the%20opponents'%20goal,hand%2Farm%2C%20even%20if%20accidental

The FA incorporated it in their own code in Law 12

For the purposes of determining handball offences, the upper boundary of the arm is in line with the bottom of the armpit. Not every touch of a player’s hand/arm with the ball is an offence.

It is an offence if a player:

deliberately touches the ball with their hand/arm, for example moving the hand/arm towards the ball
touches the ball with their hand/arm when it has made their body unnaturally bigger. A player is considered to have made their body unnaturally bigger when the position of their hand/arm is not a consequence of, or justifiable by, the player’s body movement for that specific situation. By having their hand/arm in such a position, the player takes a risk of their hand/arm being hit by the ball and being penalised
scores in the opponents' goal:
directly from their hand/arm, even if accidental, including by the goalkeeper
immediately after the ball has touched their hand/arm, even if accidental

We need to get over the whole ruling around this. It was 100% valid reasoning to disallow the goal.

Of more concern is the some out there (not here) who actually still think it didn't hit his arm.

I mean………what the hell is that about ?

It’s bizarre to think you were ever allowed accidentally score with your hand

Wrong thread lol

That’s some first touch from Mitoma

For a lad who couldn’t hit a cows arse with a banjo for months that was a lovely goal.

Comical and atrocious defending by Brighton. They played themselves into trouble and then conceded a penalty.

Reverted to type on that one alright

Maybe a bit of both.

Spurs will have a new manager soon

You're having a laugh there Spurs

Everton 3 up at half time and it could easily be a couple more, Spurs probably should have had a penalty at one stage but they’ve been truly awful, Levy probably typing up anges p45 as we speak.

Bye bye Ange.

Spurs can still come back and win this