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Donald Trump the Megathread part II - mod warnings in OP, Updated 18/03/25

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,121 ✭✭✭greenfield21


    Trump launching a meme coin now seems like the ultimate grift and the msm havent really reported on it which is interesting, maybe the thinking is that all his supporters will buy it up and get burned so it isn't really that bad. People knowingly buying this crap expecting the rug pull, and for a thrill. A few years ago this would have seemed crazy but now normal, strange how times have chnaged. On paper his net worth is now close to $60b.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,626 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    Grifter rinses moronic rubes for the umpteenth time. What's to report?

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,613 ✭✭✭Rawr


    I’m guessing it’s the novelty of someone launching a new grift hours before entering the White House.

    Although as President you’re also not supposed to disregard Security briefings, give intelligence data to opponents of the US, call literal Nazies “fine people”, nor are you supposed to incite acts of insurrection (or treason) upon losing a vote. So it’s not all that surprising I guess.

    It’s worth pointing out that a supposed “Billionaire” who’s about to enter a government post, shouldn’t need to launch a meme coin. It’s a bit odd isn’t it?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,637 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,615 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    Bill hits the nail on the head yet again.

    You go woke you go broke.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,325 ✭✭✭Field east


    another indication that Trump is still an anti Vader - the appointment of that Kennedy gentleman



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,615 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    It seems like an outrageous grift.

    I can't get my head around Crypto at all, its just selling thin air for money, a ponzi scheme.

    Fools and their money are easily parted though.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 230 ✭✭Maxface


    Texas did have a net migration gain, 612k moved in, but, 478k moved out. If it was so great, surely there wouldn't be such a significant number moving out? Easy to tell whatever story you want.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,572 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    The telling thing is, if Hillary Clinton or George Soros was launching a crypto currency like this, you would be losing your ****. But when Trump does it, no biggy. Just a president running one of his many scams.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,615 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    Interesting article in the Observer of how Trump and Biden worked together on the Gaza ceasefire deal.

    Trump sent his aide to Israel a week ago to meet Netanyahu. He made it clear what Trump expected from his government. He told the Israeli leader: “The president has been a great friend of Israel, and now it’s time to be a friend back,” the Wall Street Journal reported.

    The Israeli prime minister is “scared” of antagonising Trump, according to a European diplomat.

    After that meeting, Netanyahu ordered a delegation to Doha, Qatar, including spy chiefs and a top aide, with a mandate to reach a deal. It was the beginning of the final, unlikely stretch in negotiations that had lasted more than a year.

    After Trump’s election victory, Biden proposed the two work together on a deal. The final push was “historically almost unprecedented, and it was a highly constructive, very fruitful partnership”, between the two camps, said the administration official.

    Good to see Biden and Trump working together on the deal. Hopefully it holds and there will be no return by Israel to its genocide in the area.

    Hopefully its not a brief compromise by Netahyahu to get more military backing from Trump to re-engage the war.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 230 ✭✭Maxface


    Reminded me of the move in the West wing series when Santos was the incoming president. Very similar tactics.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,626 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    I wouldn't say it's odd. Trump has spent his life grifting, grandstanding, spewing nonsense about things he knows nothing about and spreading conspiracy theories. I think this is perfectly in character (in so far as he has any) for him.

    Say what you will about the man, he never leaves money on the table. He doesn't need it but he's never going to stop because he has legions of fans who'll never pass up an opportunity to be separated from their money for him.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,048 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    Yet another reminder that many GOP run states are net beneficiaries of the federal budget.

    What is causing them to go broke?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,350 ✭✭✭joseywhales


    People make personal life choices based on what they value, their work flexibility, their stage of life, kids etc and importantly the cost of living . Most will have moved because their jobs moved. I feel the reports of the collapse of San Fran are over exaggerated for political reasons. I was there in October for a conference , I brought my toddler, we walked all over from the golden gate bridge to the piers with the sea lions , to China Town. We took a waymo for the novelty, she played in about 5 different playgrounds dotted around. I wasn't hassled by a single homeless person, I particularly liked the Italian area next to Chinatown for cafes and the beautiful houses on the hill. I literally thought that I would move there if it didn't add an extra x hours to the flight to Ireland(I live East Coast). To me the cost would be worth it because I could afford it for now but if I added a few more kids I'd have to recalculate. That would not make san fran some hellscape that I'd have to flee from, it would just be too costly for me. Just to address it, if I hang out in the tenderloin I'm gonna have a bad time but then I'm not gonna go there, Vancouver was similar but smaller with east Hastings and it was a joy to live there also. The occasional smell of piss or being aggressively asked for a few dollars is not a big deal for me. I didn't get the sense at any point that there was danger. San Fran was more expensive than New York, it has a long way to fall, it still has the largest economy and a very high quality of life. I met people from Italy, Germany and Australia, all who flew thousands of miles and lived their time there, it is an international destination.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,584 ✭✭✭Cody montana




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,409 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    The big problems tend to be infrastructural. Was over in San Francisco recently and it was lovely, great public amenities, but traffic is awful.

    However, the US doesn’t spend in these areas, firefighters and police are at the minimum, roads and utilities only get replaced when they fail so they are very susceptible to natural and manmade disasters.

    Spending money on these is also anathema, easier to cry about it afterwards.

    I could easily have found myself living in San Jose or Austin (though the mosquitoes in Austin are awful).

    Though what clucking woke has to do with this I'm not sure, people who cluck woke are generally pieces of sh1t with anger problems. "Woke" didn't stop anyone spending on infrastructure.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,613 ✭✭✭Rawr


    Clucking “woke” also appears to come with hysterics like «they’re fleeing California in terror.» You know; typical MAGA soundbytes designed to colour one’s opinion based either a curated fiction or cherry-picked instances. You’re not supposed to question these by the way. Consume and repreat, because those damned Commie Dems™ want to change you kid’s gender during the school’s lunch break (assuming you’re kid had even survived those post-term abortions that Dems apparently love), all while your pets are eaten by immigrants and Mike Lindell will uncover some election fraud by way magical digital packet captures & bamboo traces in the ballot paper.

    Meanwhile, most Americans and economic activity are found on the coasts. These primarily blue states tend to be heavily populated (with all the problems that come with that) and are a mixture of peoples and ideas, thus leading to more progressive voters. You’re much less likely to vote against the rights or groups of people who make up your workmates, neighbours, family & friends. There areas pay for the Federal government who also have a duty to subsidise other parts of the US who might decry these net contributors as «woke» «a circus», and wish to remove rights that don’t fit into their own fundamentalist & narrow view of the world. All while ignoring the literal circus they wanted back in the White House.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 29,541 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    There is an element of truth in the argument that SF, LA and California in general are poorly run. But it mostly revolves around the fact that it has been made impossible to build anything. People, for the most part, are leaving California cause they can't find homes, not because they want to. NY is not dissimilar. California's direct democracy is also pretty stupid and counterproductive for the most part.

    However, blue states remain the places that produce the most economic activity, have the highest housing demand and broadly subsidise the rest of the country. I do hope they wake up to just Why people are leaving though and stop leaving the cities to ossify as monuments to whatever was built before 1990. But this all pales in comparison to what Trump Republicans want to do really.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 16,889 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    I have two issues with this claim (Which is based off of total Federal expenditures in a State vs taxes received from it). First is that it is based off of what the Feds need, and an Airman gets the same pay in Minot as he does in Vandenberg. The money counted need not have gone through State control. Second, the statistic penalises states where cost of living and salary are both lower, thus reducing the income from those states. In other words, it measures federal expenditure in a state, not federal expenditure to the state.

    I prefer to look at how dependent a State is on the Federal government to run as a ratio of State taxes paid: How much of the State budget depends on grants from the Feds and is passed through the State by the State government directly to the benefit of its people. By that metric, California and Texas are both pretty much in the middle of the pack on a per capita basis. ($4,100 for California, $3,580 for Texas). The spread seems to have little correlation with party control. These are the most dependent States on Federal money for their budget, per person.

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    And the least dependent.

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    Then you can start doing ratios. How much revenue was sent to the Federal government by state per capita, compared to how much the State needs per person to operate.

    This is, again, all over the place irrespective of party governance. Alaska gave about $7,700 per head to the feds to get that $8,626 back into the State budget. A net ratio of 1.1:1 inbound. Florida gave $11,160 per person to the Federal Treasury, in return for the $2,700 it needs to run, a 4.1:1 ratio outbound. California's ratio is 3.7:1 outbound, better than Texas's 2.7:1 outbound. Utah is 3.1:1 outbound, better than New York's 3:1. You can do the rest of the States for yourself, but there's no particular correlation by party.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 16,889 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    Pretty much this. Issues like infrastructure management tend not to be readily apparent to tourists. I doubt that hotels advertised the state recommendation to keep showers to five minutes because the percentage of the state budget devoted to infrastructure dropped from 30% in the 1960s to 3% in the 2010s and the water infrastructure dates to a time when the population was half what it is now. A tourist in San Francisco probably isn't trying to get through the transbay tube at rush hour, or experiencing the road quality of CA-99.

    The shift in spending priorities may not be a result of 'woke", but it is a result of political policies. CA is in large extent a house of cards built on mud. Everything is fine and beautiful, but the foundations are rotting.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,722 ✭✭✭saabsaab


    The Canadians - how on earth have the US let them get away with it for so long? I mean they live in North America yet still have a King of England in charge! Not only that they have a French metric system – what in the name of holy is that. They eat weird food like poutine, love the cold and speak French and count temperature in Celsius. Canada is an unashamed hotbed of liberal attitudes with free healthcare and social assistance and don’t start me on what they call beer!

    Just to make it clear to ayone who voted Trump the above is called satire.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 16,889 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    The first line has been disproven twice over. First by survey: The people leaving California for Texas are the sorts of people who are inclined towards Texas policies.
    https://www.tpr.org/government-politics/2024-11-04/are-californians-moving-to-texas-and-turning-it-blue-the-numbers-say-not-really

    https://www.houstonchronicle.com/projects/2024/california-texas-politics/

    Secondly, by the election results. New Jersey came far closer to flipping in the last election than Texas did. Not that NJ is likely to flip any time soon, but neither, it seems, is Texas.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,325 ✭✭✭Field east


    I wonder can Trump use the same persuasive powers to tell Putin to f— k off home or else……………



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,907 ✭✭✭eire4


    Of the top 15 states in terms of being net beneficiaries of federal funds 13 are Republican controlled states.

    Mod - @eire4, I've deleted your attachment as it's unreadable on mobile, please just add a link instead.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,535 ✭✭✭techdiver


    People will buy any shite from Amazon to be fair.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,615 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    The garbage truck that Donald Trump rode in as a comeback to "garbage" remarks by Joe Biden will make an appearance at Monday’s inauguration.

    😁



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,615 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    No I wouldnt be losing my **** because guess what I dont lose my **** over things like this.

    The Left, they are the ones who lose their **** over the most innocuous of things and do they it on a regular basis.

    They laughably try to accuse others of faux outrage.

    The majority have spoken, they have rejected the Democrats and their hypocritical bull.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,637 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,584 ✭✭✭Cody montana


    I’m confused.
    Did the democrats storm the Capitol because their candidate lost?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,535 ✭✭✭techdiver


    It wasn't the left that lost their **** and stormed the Capitol trying to disrupt the certification of an election? Or am I misremembering?



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