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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,468 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    Oh matron, titter ye not.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,205 ✭✭✭jonnybigwallet


    The sooner they put michael d out to grass the better. To think this fella is the supreme commander of the DF.…it beggars belief.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,205 ✭✭✭jonnybigwallet


    I see that Greenland (population 57000) have announced they are spending 1.2 billion this year on their military, and they have a massive protection already via the huge US military base their. Our lot should't be so stingy given the relative size of the population and the state of the exchequer.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,062 ✭✭✭Markcheese


    I thought defence ect for Greenland were handled by Denmark ?

    Slava ukraini 🇺🇦



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,381 ✭✭✭sparky42




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,205 ✭✭✭jonnybigwallet


    Hmm…Not a huge population in DM either! Amazed they can raise a credible army from such a tiny population? Maybe theyve been poachin ours!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,468 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    Well quite obviously they've maintained a solid investment down the years. Not just in money, but in keeping the military at the heart of the Kingdom and of society, rather than being ashamed of it, as Ireland seemed to be, for too long.

    They have mandatory military service for all able men of age, and voluntary avenues for women in the same cohort.

    And with that commitment they've got a permanent defence force of 22,000 and a integrated reserve of 12,000. Plus a 'Dad's Army' homeland defensive reserve of over 50,000.

    Denmark has had an integrated force structure since after WW2, having learned from that conflict. Ideas that Ireland are only now beginning to embrace.

    In point of fact, Ireland could look to the entire Danish template for inspiration, and to what can be delivered for the money.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 16,895 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    I can't say I see anything particularly 'racist'/anti-Irish in that article.

    The Defence Journal is again having a go at a nation which isn't taking defence seriously. Sounds pretty much appropriate for the publication. And if it's doing it repeatedly, it's because Ireland is continuing to demonstrate it hasn't yet taken defence seriously.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,265 ✭✭✭roadmaster




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,468 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    Do they have a post-Brexit, arse-hurt, anti Irish tint off them, just like so many other British papers and periodicals? Yes, absolutely. And as with all the others, its just noisy Tory types looking for an angle. It has no material effect.

    Is it racist? No, not a bit.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,957 ✭✭✭CrabRevolution


    There's no point making these comparisons, they're like oil and water.

    The Danes gave up a public holiday to pay for increased defence expenditure. The Irish public on the other hand would rather ask the USA or Russia to just vaporise us with nuclear weapons than fund defence properly.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,381 ✭✭✭sparky42


    One of the CASA's is up off the West Coast monitoring one of the Russian "Shadow Fleet" tankers according to the IT, with the possibility of the Navy being sent as well.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,468 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    The P60 with the broken gun or the P70 without any?

    Whatever about the 295 actually doing the job for which it was procured, there is little point sending out an already stressed NS when there are probably half a dozen NATO attack submarines keeping better tabs on that shadow fleet than one NS ship could ever do.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,062 ✭✭✭Markcheese


    There's a lot a lot of shadow fleet tankers ,and their transponders- as well as their anchors have been known to fail at inopportune moments.. a naval vessel shadowing them is no bad thing, I'm assuming that putting a brace of 76mm rounds into an oil tanker might have a downside ..

    Trying to Board an oil tanker that doesn't want to be boarded from a rib ,in the Atlantic is probably not a great plan , so I assume the air-corp would be involved,

    Slava ukraini 🇺🇦



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,205 ✭✭✭jonnybigwallet


    Emm. I think I know how to get more recroits into the DF. We need a bit more of this.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,468 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,265 ✭✭✭roadmaster


    The Turks know how to make a strong transit



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,468 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    I would flip that assessment and express greater concern for the flimsy nature of the rather ancient wall.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,923 ✭✭✭✭Esel
    Not Your Ornery Onager


    I thought all DF vehicles had black number plates?

    Not your ornery onager



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,468 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    Not necessarily in recent years. Vehicles used for utility and admin often don't.

    Personally I think they should, but they either have a ÓnahÉ badge on the door in the case of black staff cars, or the Unit Number in the back window in the case of a van such as this.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,468 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,265 ✭✭✭roadmaster


    By treating personal with there rights like every other employee in the country i wonder will operations be effected due to the current staffing numbers.

    https://www.rte.ie/news/2025/0121/1492007-working-time-defence-forces/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 437 ✭✭Grassy Knoll


    IMHO a balance needs to be struck between operational requirements and implementing reforms. At the very least proper OT arrangements should be put in place.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,932 ✭✭✭Alkers


    This is a double edge sword for the DF, there are plenty of people not doing their hours!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,381 ✭✭✭sparky42


    So we are formally going to have a foreign navy tasking in our EEZ cause we can’t be arsed, wonder if they will charge us for it?

    https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-41560885.html



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,265 ✭✭✭roadmaster


    An the blame game as started.

    https://www.thejournal.ie/high-level-crisis-meeting-among-defence-forces-chiefs-as-naval-gun-crisis-deepens-6602434-Jan2025/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,381 ✭✭✭sparky42


    nah, that’s a different blame game, having to ask someone else in as we have no ASW capabilities is a higher level game than that if it was ever an issue. That I would guess is just the General being “annoyed” at the media pointing out that he was telling BS when he said they wouldn’t sail.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,118 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    It is impossible for me to understand, no matter how much I try, why this state is so uniquely ignorant and reckless with it's own national security.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,381 ✭✭✭sparky42


    An unholy combination of a hundred years of **** up and a significant portion of the population/politicians having this insane idea of how moral being utterly defenceless is…



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 437 ✭✭Grassy Knoll


    my sense is the understanding is there more than ever regarding our responsibility for our national security within the policy making levels. Indeed, there is an increasing view even within the civil service we should be joining the likes of NATO or EU arrangements. Our idiosyncratic approach is becoming harder to sustain against the lived experience of other EU partners and ultimately our own national self interest.

    However, the political override switch is needed to help resolve manning issues in the first instance, the official view has been a gradualist approach will work, clearly not and reflects a complete ignorance of the high skilled nature of the job and the ‘transfer market’that exists for niche skills. Secondly, an issue that acts on a handbrake is the form of pacifism that has infected our consideration of defence policy. While those in the policy area largely get it, there are decades of inertia, public perception and political posturing to overcome.

    The evidence of a considered and sustainable defence policy can be seen from the Commission on Defence. As in Ireland or to be fair any transformation project implementation cannot be slow,or uneven. It now needs the political impetus to push through obstacles. The situation where we now have vessels literally tied up because of core skill shortages is scandalous, and now where the ‘adults’ are going to intervene because of this is shameful.



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