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Seanad General Election 2025 - University Panels

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,703 ✭✭✭pureza


    I’m the same with the NUI ballot

    Never heard of any except the incumbents

    It’s likely the incumbents will be re elected



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 651 ✭✭✭Madeoface


    Zappone has some brass neck / balls coming back here after trying to rip the taxpayer off when she failed in the GE.

    Boooooo.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 74,996 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Her expenses while she was a TD made it damn clear she was brazen about sucking the state dry.

    Claimed to drive a specific, longer route to the Dáil to get pushed in to another expenses band. Difference was huge.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,117 ✭✭✭StormForce13


    I found it easy to divide them into 3 bands of four:

    The Acceptables, preferences 1 - 4

    The Mehs, preferences 5 - 8

    and

    The 5 Star Gobshites, preferences 9 -12. (Sorry Ronan!)

    Then start by giving Mickey Dee's parasitic daughter your 12th preference and work your way up from there.

    Last time round there were 19 NUI candidates and 16 counts. This meant that some people's 16th preference may actually have mattered at the end of the day. This year there are only 12 candidates, so there may be as many as 11 counts.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,017 ✭✭✭Caquas


    There was a much wider field in 2020 and ten of them got a respectable vote tally. Ruth Coppinger was the strongest challenger and survived to the 16th count when Alice was elected thanks to transfers from Labour's Laura Harmon.

    Eva Dowling is running again for the Greens. She got 1,229 FP votes in 2020, in the middle of the field. The lack of serious contenders means she could be the only Green party candidate to increase her vote this time out 😅

    The current list is astonishingly non-diverse despite a perfect gender equality. It is almost exclusively Dubliners and two-thirds reside in those blessed regions of Dublin's Southside which only the best and brightest of NUI graduates could afford 😛

    STV gives us the satisfaction of voting against candidates - stop your preferences when you have exhausted all those you can stomach. But in this case, I have nothing for or against any candidates other than the sitting Senators.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,117 ✭✭✭StormForce13


    The good thing about Dublin Southside Senators is that their travel and subsistence claims are always much lower than those who come from more distant places. So I'm all for them! I suggest that rather than focusing on the abilities, promises, or political allegiances of the candidates, you simply vote on the basis of their distance from Leinster House! The Exchequer will thank you for your thoughfulness.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,017 ✭✭✭Caquas


    Legitimate expenses would be a horribly parsimonious criterion for choosing between the candidates in a national election but, so far, no one here has come up with anything better😟

    We spurned the opportunity to abolish all Seanad expenses in 2013. Whatever naive hopes there might have been for Seanad, surely no one imagined their expenses would be cut?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,117 ✭✭✭StormForce13


    The legendary Ivor Callely found that claiming T&S expenses from his holiday mansion in West Cork, rather than from his residence in Killester, an extremely lucrative method of feathering his nest during his period in the Senate after losing his Dáil seat and being gifted a Taoiseach's nomination to the Seanad by the Digout man!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,017 ✭✭✭Caquas


    Which reminds me of a skeleton Philip Ryan didn't pull out of the Zapper's closet.

    https://www.thejournal.ie/katherine-zappone-travel-expenses-2732813-Apr2016/

    So, yeah, those Dublin Senators know how to max. out their expenses!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,117 ✭✭✭StormForce13


    The sickest political species going:- a woke socialist grifter. Rather like Sir Sponger Starmer in the UK, not forgetting the little parasite in The Big House.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,493 ✭✭✭✭retalivity


    Theres been some amount of literature sent through my letterbox for this, all of which has gone in the bin, ballot paper included. None of these clowns should be elected, especially Zappone, MacNeill or Chu



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,309 ✭✭✭✭dulpit




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 74,996 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    And you've done precisely nothing to try prevent the ones you dislike the most being elected



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,493 ✭✭✭✭retalivity


    Fully agree, but demorilisation with the process/seanad & general apathy at the lack of options made me throw them all in the bin. I have voted in the last 2 seanad elections (Norris fwiw), but this one…just completely disengaged.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 40,734 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    This is exactly how we end up with Ronan Mullen on the NUI panel, because the majority of voters who dislike everything he stands for don't bother voting

    I'm partial to your abracadabra
    I'm raptured by the joy of it all



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,075 ✭✭✭✭Marcusm


    As I Understand it, she can’t even vote for herself which, I suspect, is a unique position amongst the candidates. She is a UCD graduate not a TCD one.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 26,605 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    I thought you had to graduate from TCD to be on the panel or is being a former staff member accepted as well?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 40,734 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Anyone can be nominated afaik

    I'm partial to your abracadabra
    I'm raptured by the joy of it all



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,676 ✭✭✭aero2k


    For those with ballot papers for the TCD election, the following links might be helpful. The first is to a video of a hustings debate - it's split into two groups of 8 candidates. It's 3 hrs long and I didn't watch all of it - I just picked little snippets of candidates I wasn't familiar with. It's tame enough but might help give an impression of how people conduct themselves. I'm happy to vote for people who's politics don't coincide with my own as long as they can make coherent arguments, as I feel diversity of opinion is a benefit in the upper house. I've also linked to the TCD page which has a short bio of each candidate.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 26,605 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    Learn something new every day, always thought they had to be a graduate of one of them to run for the position.



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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 26,605 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    I found it difficult for the NUI candidates as there isn't much out there. Easy to put Mullens last but having to google each candidate to see does their spiel on the candidate page match their record was annoying, the above by TCD would be far more beneficial.

    All done now, no incumbent IMO was in the top half of my ballot paper but I have no doubt most of them will get in.



  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 14,383 Mod ✭✭✭✭JupiterKid


    Just posted off my TCD and NUI Seanad ballots - I'm a graduate of both - BA(Mod) in Trinity and MA in NUI Maynooth.

    There was a ridiculous number of candidates on the TCD ballot this years - it was actually easier to decide who NOT to vote for - Ronan Mullen, Katherine Zappone and Hazel Chu in particular.

    The next election will be open to all degree holders from Irish third level institutions but diploma graduates are still excluded which I think is unfair. The Seanad needs more reforms but not abolition IMO.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 74,996 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Conventional diplomas aren't issued anymore. Some old diplomas map to L7, and L7 Bachelors holders are able to register. Some defunct DIT diplomas map to L8!

    Might be another court case in that one…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,117 ✭✭✭StormForce13


    Part of the reason that he gets in so easily is because so many priests and nuns went to NUI Colleges to get their teaching qualifications. And they're all registered to vote in Seanad Elections!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,017 ✭✭✭Caquas


    Polls have now closed for both NUI and TCD. Counting is underway in TCD and in the RDS for NUI.

    The other panels have until tomorrow to vote for 43 seats. Their results expected on Monday or Tuesday. Counting a thousand votes can take a long time because there will be many counts before the final result.

    https://www.thejournal.ie/counting-seanad-elections-6607488-Jan2025/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 74,996 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    There's also fractional transfers on the vocational panels, handled by making each vote become 1000 votes; if someone gets a quota on the first count - happened on two panels last time - this takes quite a while.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 449 ✭✭Charlo30


    I've only voted once and that was around 15ish years ago and then only because I knew one of the candidates running and said I'd vote for them. Honestly, I just think the Seanad is a waste of a good room.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,117 ✭✭✭StormForce13


    Links to Count Centres:

    Hub: https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/elections/seanad-general-election/

    NUI:

    https://www.nui.ie/elections/seanadelection2025/default.asp https://www.nui.ie/elections/seanadelection2025/default.asp

    Trinity: https://www.tcd.ie/seanad/seanad-eireann-election-2025/

    Five Panels: https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/elections/seanad-general-election-live/

    No action on ony of these sites yet, but the RTE news reported that both Universities hope to have first counts completed later this evening.

    Post edited by StormForce13 on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 74,996 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Based on a quarter tally from Trinity, Zappone is not getting in. 7th behind Ruane, Clonan, Aubrey McCarthy, Hugo McNeill, Ossian Smyth and Laura Harmon currently.

    Far more votes than I thought she'd get but a fraction of the amount that some people on here (the site, not this thread solely) seemed to think she'd get.

    Chu is also doing appallingly, this might be the last we hear of her for a seat other than a council seat.

    NUI will be same 3.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,637 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    Turnout not even 25% according to the Irish Times.

    Yet these people will regularly appear on panel programmes for the next 5 years.



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