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Buying advice BMW 318D 2014 160000 miles

  • 16-01-2025 12:11PM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20


    hello,


    I’m looking to buy a used 2014 318D automatic with 160000 miles on it. The dealer says the timing chain has been serviced at 120000. What things should I consider before buying it ?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,706 ✭✭✭✭Idbatterim


    Dont buy it… Seriously dont buy it… What comedy money, do they want for that car? My mechanic mate is selling a 2008 520d auto , just got the nct the other day… At least if that chain goes bang, you can write off the thousand euro you lost, sell it for E300 or so , think he would be looking for E1300 to E1400…

    My bmw is in with another mechanic as we speak. What car are you currently driving?

    Things to consider, its a rubbish engine, its a diesel… Its not going to be cheap, when the suspension and all of the other usual suspects need attention…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,877 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    There is no servicing of a timing chain. They probably meant that it was replaced as it's a very common problem on those engines for the timing chain to stretch and start rattling before snapping and then kill the engine. I'd look for evidence of it having been changed, i.e. receipts otherwise it's just words from a seller.

    I'd also look for any service history on the car to give you an idea of how it was cared for. Any previous main BMW dealer service history would be digitally stored within the car's infotainment system rather than in a service book. But at the end of the day it's an 11 year old car so judge it on current condition too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,706 ✭✭✭✭Idbatterim


    good advice. BUT why would you buy that car? when people are aware of these issues, dealers are total liars. You simply wouldnt as a rational person…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,877 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    But we don't know if it is a blatant lie by the dealer or if it's the OP's misinterpretation of what the dealer said.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,730 ✭✭✭✭User1998


    If the car is in good condition with a recent NCT, full service, proof of timing chain etc and OP is aware it may need some repairs from time to time then why wouldn’t they buy it? I wouldn’t personally recommend it but each to their own



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,706 ✭✭✭✭Idbatterim


    I agree, I wouldnt touch it… The mechanic right next to me, its always the usual suspects. I just laugh when the next typically older bmw is on the ramp, typically the ones with the rubbish timing chain. Opels are another one, the older ford focus. Im driving my mums older micra at the moment, the things are just so ridiculously reliable and good, for what they are. I dont think the older BMW's are worth driving and paying the premium for, unless its actually a proper bmw in the first place…

    Then what value does that NCT have? christ, one of my mates, not in the trade, can throw a lad working there E50 and has done, and he gets his pass. They went over my car the other day, with the finest tooth comb, work being done now, then Ive had it, where Ive barely sat down, with the same car the year before, their back in "thats a pass"… My mechanic will then have it on the ramp and tell me, look at this, this needs to be sorted, if its anything safety related, I am getting it done immediately. This could be a few weeks after an nct…

    I am aware there is no way you can get a perfect system, but a car having an nct for me, wouldnt mean a thing… Is it great that it wont have to go to the nct until a certain period? yes.. Would I trust the nct as far as I could throw it? no and thats before you get to the issue of garages and how fallible a system like the nct is to abuse…



  • Site Banned Posts: 1,258 ✭✭✭Whocare


    Seen on tiktok Irish garage that Specialise on bmw that even if timing chain is replaced it can fail again in very low mileages if good brand of chain Isn't use depending on brand of chain it could be nearly worn out again



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,171 ✭✭✭Hyperbollix


    I wouldn't bother. From a dealer, you'll be paying way over the odds for what is a high miler that could go wallop a week later. Now if the car was a private sale and the seller was desperate to get rid, that would be a different matter. You could maybe take a punt on it if the price was very favourable and the history was good.

    TBH, if you're in the market for 160k mile BMW's you're as well buying something a bit older from a private seller. If you find an honest one, with low number of owners, good history, the chain replaced with receipts etc etc, you're only looking at a €2 / 3k outlay. I bought a 5 series during lockdown with the 2l diesel engine known for chain trouble. It was a one owner car, bought on the man's driveway and judging by the house, he wasn't short of a bob. It was looked after and serviced religiously. He needed it gone to make way for his new car and because no one could travel from outside the county to see it, he took a big hit on the price. I'm still driving it and it's been an 8/10 for reliability. There were wear and tear items to solve and a few DPF related issues that are now sorted but it's going great and I'd struggle to find a better 5 series if I was looking to "keep up in the years" - I'd just be buying a heap of trouble and starting off with a long repair list.

    If you're looking at 10 - 12 year old saloons, I'd go with Korean or Jap, with lower mileage and a smaller price tag.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20 vinitxxp


    i Had a 2007 skoda octavia 1.4 petrol sold due to bad fuel economy 12L/100km in stop and go traffic I drive 1000 kms per month 40% motorway 60% city



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,730 ✭✭✭✭User1998


    You should probably just buy another Octavia then and avoid BMW. You’ll get something a lot newer and more reliable for the same cost



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,706 ✭✭✭✭Idbatterim


    I just saw the 160,000 miles bit, totally agree with the above, if this was a private sale and priced reasonably, some might take the risk, as is, ZERO chance! avoid! If most of your driving is city, yeah get an auto, also yes to diesel if you prefer it, given its getting proper motorway runs. There are some lovely very comfortable hondas or again, yeah skodas can be good. Really depends on your budget…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20 vinitxxp


    another one I’m looking there is 2015 skoda with 230000kms on it, manual 1.6 TDI. Advert says the timing belt and water pump was done. Should I consider that one ? Skoda is 7500e and the Beemer is 8750e



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,730 ✭✭✭✭User1998


    Yes thats more reasonable, but if your buying privately you should be getting it for around €6500



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20 vinitxxp


    just saw a tons of videos there about the DPF thing since I’m driving mostly in stop and go traffic Id rather stick with petrol engine there now ! Anyway I’m taking the car on hirepurchase so does not make sense if my car is gonna give DPF issues



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,730 ✭✭✭✭User1998


    Toyota Prius will be the best option then



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,171 ✭✭✭Hyperbollix


    12k kms annual, mostly city driving. Mpg important....

    I'd be going for a sporty hatch, 1 or 1.1L, 3 cylinder engine, 5 speed minimum. Good economy without the headaches of diesel.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20 vinitxxp


    i set the limit max to 8000e on done deal couldn’t find a prius thats not done crazy miles I think i might go for a polo or fiat 500 jesus do I regret selling my first car the 2006 toyota yaris for the likes of the octavia…still regret it !



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,171 ✭✭✭Hyperbollix


    The second gen Yaris is a great runabout. Great build quality, bulletproof, v good mpg with the 1L and very nippy for town driving with 5spd gearbox that can sit at 120k on motorway without strain. Have one here with only 60k miles on it, would never sell. Yes, I'd probably rather something a bit sporty but I have enough cars that have a problem every 3 months!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 151 ✭✭colm reilly


    Fellow with that mileage run away .Your doing low km a year .Get yourself a swift,clio,kia, petrol onlu .At your price point cut out the dealer ,buy private after doing your checks ect .Cars are massively over priced ,so make offers at least 15/20% on asking price .Dont be fooled ,cashj is king and dealers are sitting on lot of stock .Good luck



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,730 ✭✭✭✭User1998




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,706 ✭✭✭✭Idbatterim


    I See the new hyundai inster electric car with 42kw battery, starts from 19,000. 120 motor tax, no nct for four years...

    19,000 retail price. Finance example they gave on their site for pcp is 6648 customer deposit, 12350 finance, 36 monthly payments of 175. 8100 optional final payment. Credit cost e2076 at 5% APR



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20 vinitxxp


    You are true about the price when buying private but if I had 6-8k sitting in my account I would never go for hire purchase. So, it has be a car from 2014 and above and minimum 5k loan. So kinda tight situation tbh



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20 vinitxxp


    final update booked a 2012 Lexus ct200h 156,000 miles, nct jan 26 for 6900e

    I hope and pray all goes economical and safe for me



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,584 ✭✭✭goochy


    Sounds cheap



  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 18,197 Mod ✭✭✭✭Henry Ford III




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,706 ✭✭✭✭Idbatterim


    I am just going to post this here, the nct with is worthless, in terms of if the vehicle had been properly checked. It does mean you dont need to go back for a check until its due, that is the only thing, its buying you...

    Also buy that car from the dealer today and see what you get for it tomorrow privately, half the figure...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,730 ✭✭✭✭User1998


    A recent NCT is not worthless. In fact it could potentially be worth thousands of euro on an 11 year old high mileage BMW. You must be reading the news headlines too much lately.



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