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Conor McGregor Megathread *Mod Warning in OP Updated 20th April*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,425 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Well, one thing I think we can all be quite certain on is that McGregor's appeal will be played out on his social media via rantings, not in an actual judicial setting. How desperate are some folks to try sully the jury's civil trial verdict that they'd be wanting CCTV footage released , as if this somehow disqualifies the jury's verdict, the same jury that actually did see the CCTV footage…. along with hearing all the other evidence

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 629 ✭✭✭juno10353


    No, McGregor knows he is guilty, but believes he has gotten away with it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,226 ✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    I believe McGregor is “playing at being Trump” in terms of his public lambasting of the court and the verdict- different country, different rules and certainly different outcomes- he may yet regret his behaviour - I’m hoping a spell in jail for contempt is open to the judge because he certainly deserves that



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 588 ✭✭✭DaithiMa


    More troubles. Those legal bills will be adding up. Doubt he has a patsy to muddy the waters for this one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,080 ✭✭✭Large bottle small glass


    What's the actual legal status of the CCTV footage?

    It must have been released by gardai/DPP for the civil trial. If a copy was made for both sides(I don't know which side had it originally) who owns those copies now?

    It was originally the property of the hotel.

    Ordinarily control of use/copying of footage/photographs is very tight for criminal case, not so much for civil trials.

    Can the judge legally limit the publication of the CCTV?

    I have no interest in seeing footage; a short clip without full context clip is never a good starting point for anything.



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  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 42,839 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    The cctv would still, I assume, be owned by the hotel and data protection rules would apply to it so couldn't be released to the public because it was not collected for that purpose...

    https://www.dataprotection.ie/en/dpc-guidance/guidance-on-the-use-of-cctv



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,491 ✭✭✭Pauliedragon


    As odd as this sounds I don't want him going to jail for contempt. He'd be out in no time and it would be a badge of honour for him and his criminsl pals. He'd make himself out to be harder than he already thinks he for doing "time". Then when he gets out there would be party of the century to welcome him home Sopranos style.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,037 ✭✭✭TokTik


    It is compelled evidence. Any party that releases it would be in contempt of court.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,037 ✭✭✭TokTik


    Would impact his travel to the US you would think



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,414 ✭✭✭TheIrishGrover


    Probably once upon a time. But now he would probably get a presidential invitation .



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,226 ✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    Correct me if I’m wrong but I haven’t seen reports of him actually being in America for some time now - I’m wondering is he already experiencing some issues in obtaining a relevant visa - I wouldn’t be surprised if he was



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,025 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    The only issue i have with the verdict is 250k is not enough to put up with the abuse she's still getting



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,425 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    let’s hope the court puts an end to this intimidation and harassment, or at least tries to put an end to it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 786 ✭✭✭foxsake


    i agree with your post on the selective bit - The entire video would be compelling tbf.

    It is possible the CCTV is a distraction on his part knowing it will not be released and allowing him to sow doubt or it could be something that exonerates him. who knows?

    as I posted earlier, i have misgivings on the entire thing… i dont see how from the evidence presented a decision could be made and in general terms this civil court thing doesn't sit right with me.if he did the crime he should be criminally convicted. if not , then no. This half way house of civil court with its lower threshold is fundamentally unfair.

    it smacks of that Scottish "not proven" sh1te that smears the accused for life regardless.



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 42,839 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    The entire video would be compelling tbf.

    It wouldn't really be. As I understand it, it shows a drunk woman in the lift with him (and others).

    It is one piece of evidence from a case which had a lot more evidence. Taking one piece of evidence out to selectively publish it is done to further an agenda e.g. undermine her sexual assault claim and to undermine the jury decision.

    The jury looked at all the evidence and decided that mcg had sexually assaulted her. They made an informed decision based on the evidence presented. mcg had the ability to appeal the decision and, to our knowledge, has made no effort to do so which is strange given him mouthing off confidently about how he was in the right.
    So why then should we make assumptions that the evidence was flawed if he won't even challenge it?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,551 ✭✭✭RoryMac


    For anyone that doesn't already know you can follow the proceedings in court on the twitter timeline of Paul Healy



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,414 ✭✭✭TheIrishGrover


    It can't. Cos as long as his scrote army still believe he's "the greatest" they'll do their scrote thing. Realistically she should get 10 or 20 times what she got: 2.5 - 5 million so she could move. Not for one moment saying she should have to move. She's the victim. But he's going to continue to do his thing (Deny and attempt to profit from it and victim shame her via his proxies/businesses) and his scrote fanbase will continue to do their thing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 802 ✭✭✭rustynutz


    It looks like Mcgreggor is trying to make life as difficult as possible for the victim, to deter others from coming forward. Her life is in ruins, all the personal details that came out in the trial, partying all night, and cheating on her boyfriend etc. And now she will probably end up blowing through the 250k on legal fees Trying to prevent this footage been released, and there will be more. McGregor can afford to keep stirring things for infinity.

    Would anyone willingly put themselves through this process in future when you see the way Nakita Hand is being treated?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,327 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    Well no. It would only be compelling if it showed what did or did not happen inside the penthouse bedroom. All it can really show is the state of the parties at that time.

    Having a "beyond reasonable doubt" standard of proof at a civil trial would not be practical. You could have a civil dispute with your neighbour about where your garden ends and where his starts. If you say it is at line A but your neighbour says it is at line B. It ends up in court where you cannot prove beyond a reasonable doubt that you are correct ………. but your neighbour cannot prove beyond a reasonable doubt that he is correct. Nothing would get decided. Whereas in a criminal trial you cannot convict based on a "more likely than not" standard.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,266 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    The key point is that the CCTV footage was watched in full by the jury and not only was it seen once, but several times over. They decided that on the balance of evidence that McGregor and the other fella were lying through their teeth on the witness stand and that was after factoring in what they watched on the CCTV footage.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,327 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    I saw some gobsh!te on twitter (maybe it was linked from this thread as I'm not on twitter) who had a picture of the victim leaving the trial side by side with a picture of McGregors missus lying on a beach, to denigrates the victim's looks, and trying to say that that somehow proved he didn't do what he did.

    Which, apart from being wholly irrelevant to anything, completely and blindly ignored the fact that the perpetrator admitted his own behaviour vis-a-vis meeting up with the victim, organising a penthouse to bring her back to, and then claiming he had consensual sex with her.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,414 ✭✭✭TheIrishGrover


    Soom probably to be called "The Trump Defense" (She's not my type/Not pretty enough to rape/assault)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,414 ✭✭✭TheIrishGrover


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    as I posted earlier, i have misgivings on the entire thing… i dont see how from the evidence presented a decision could be made and in general terms this civil court thing doesn't sit right with me

    In fairness, you don't have all the evidence. None of us not involved in the case (Including the jury) do. That's what the jury is there for: To represent us. It is not the position of the court to release this to the entire world and get their/our verdict.

    One cannot expect her life to be ruined even more because of curiosity

    Edited as I incorrectly quoted wrong post. Sincerest apologies to originally quoted poster

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,025 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    There's was room to compensate her for him being a dick in court (the sexual position gestures and language)which i thought was a no brainer but the jury didn't award



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 42,839 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    ^^^ @TheIrishGrover You're quoting me but I didn't say that!

    Edit: @TheIrishGrover's post now corrected 👍️

    Post edited by Seth Brundle on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,414 ✭✭✭TheIrishGrover




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 975 ✭✭✭mountai


    Seems the floodgates have opened according to the Irish Independent



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,368 ✭✭✭jj880


    Some snippets from the hearing just now from judge Owens:

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    Then this changes slightly:

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    So is McGregor in contempt if he shared it with the Italian or only if it gets released?



  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 18,856 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kimbot


    Only if it gets released from this point onwards.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,551 ✭✭✭RoryMac


    Some of the judges comments talk about McGregor's future appeal and hope for a new trial. I wonder will any journalist let us know where that stands, has he lodged an appeal at this point of is he looking at an alternative route?

    The judge put McGregor in his place with the comment below



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