Conor McGregor Megathread *Mod Warning in OP Updated 20th April*

Pauliedragon

He's got a lot more to worry about now anyway.

https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/conor-mcgregor-miami-heat-sued-over-alleged-sexual-assault-at-2023-nba-finals-1718318.html

walshb

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123062616#Comment_123062616

yes. Judge referencing ifs in relation to an appeal. Mcgregor’s defender, Farrell mentioning appeal based on some possible errors in law, which the judge appeared to shut down. I’ll still stand by my view that there will be no appeal

Oscar_Madison

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123063248#Comment_123063248

I read a statistic a few years ago- I think it was during Prince Andrew’s civil case - over 90% of such cases are settled out of court - in New York at least where his trial was scheduled to take place - I reckon this will be the same - I have no doubt McGregor will be similarly vocal post settlement in that case also - until an actual criminal charge and trial comes about, he has all the money in the world to fight and settle such cases- civil suits mean nothing to him regardless of the implications

nc6000

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123062186#Comment_123062186

Consensual "rough" sex was what I think he said, I guess he needs a way of explaining all the bruising and chokehold stuff.

jj880

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123063379#Comment_123063379

"Vigorous, athletic fully consensual sex" I believe is what he said.

walshb

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123063404#Comment_123063404

and Lawrence had soft sex with her. So soft not an iota of his DNA could be found

nc6000

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123063404#Comment_123063404

Ah yes, that's it. He mustn't have used the word rough.

Donald Trump

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123063379#Comment_123063379

The point was the random twitter person appeared convinced that the perpetrator did not do it because effectively "sure who would want to have sex with the girl on the right when they have the girl on the left". They gave the impression that they weren't aware that the perpetrator actually admitted to putting in a lot of effort towards trying to have sex with the girl on the left, and admitted that they did have sex with her.

DaithiMa

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123063333#Comment_123063333

It's true that the immediate financial impact of settling civil cases out of court won't have much impact on him but the fact that Nikita took him all the way to court and wouldn't settle has had a massive effect on his reputation and future earning power.

Shops taking any products associated with him off their shelves. Eddie Hearn cutting ties with the stout this week. He'll probably still be welcomed in the world of mma but he can forget about anything mainstream, especially in Europe.

It's no wonder he was so desperate to keep the case out of the courtroom.

nc6000

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123063460#Comment_123063460

I got the point of the post thanks and I wasn't disagreeing with it.

Markus Antonius

No fan of Mcgregor. But is making me intrigued as to why the plaintiff so desperate to not have this footage post-rape released.

I would have empathy for women who would be in an almost comatose drunken state who get raped, but for someone who can function enough to walk around, raises serious questions with me as to why they would still be hanging around with their alleged rapist after the fact.

Did the courts/jury make an almighty c*ck up here? Lets see how the appeal goes. Only a matter a of time before everyone sees the footage and can make their own mind up.

Mod - warned for victim blaming

walshb

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123063607#Comment_123063607

why on earth after all she has been through should she have no issue with cctv being released publicly?

He’s still intimidating her and harassing her in wanting this cctv released, and you’re wondering why she wouldn’t want it released?

She’s absolutely bang on to not allow him try keep this going and try keep dictating how this plays out. It’s done. She fought for justice and she got it. And this is where it should be left for her

The jury saw the footage. This is what counts. Not Joe Public

jj880

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123063607#Comment_123063607

You might want to give the last few pages of the thread a look.

Donald Trump

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123063607#Comment_123063607

How can you not see the effect of this when the perpetrator has (or had) millions of fanboy to jump to his defence? Ones who have already made up their minds and who would jump on anything remotely tangible to prove their heroes innocence even if it is wholly irrelevant

I gave the example above of where she was already getting targeted and denigrated for her looks by some random gobsh1te on twitter. Why should she be subject to even more of that?

The jury decided she had been raped. The perpetrator cannot continue to claim in the public arena that she wasn't unless and until he wins an appeal. Which he almost definitely won't according to the judge!

Dr Robert

His army of fanboys has dwindled massively. I don't know a single person that can stand the sight of him.

walshb

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123063736#Comment_123063736

plenty still getting selfies in the forge

Dial Hard

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123063736#Comment_123063736

Scroll up.

L1011

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123063736#Comment_123063736

There's an entire pub full of them in Drimnagh every night of the week. People travel to go get generic pub grub and cheap whiskey and rave about how great it is.

(the stout is probably decent considering the heritage of the brewery he bought, but he didn't create it from nothing)

downthemiddle

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123063607#Comment_123063607

You are clearly no fan of the truth either.

purifol0

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123062230#Comment_123062230

Ah but this is bollocks because its utterly out of date. The public and should be able to watch the whole thing over streaming, the reason we have a jury of a few is because the court system is ANCIENT and unwilling to move with the times unless it suits them, not us.

TheIrishGrover

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123063914#Comment_123063914

And what? Have a phone-in poll? 2 euro plus carrier charge per vote? Rape Island?

And the impact to the victim? SHE is the victim here but you want ghouls to watch and rewatch her pain? If it was your sister or daughter or mother, what would you want?

purifol0

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123063957#Comment_123063957

Ahaha. Not a fan of Open Justice I see.

Also FWIW the biggest underminer of Nikita Hands credibility isn't the video that ye are desperate to censor, its thr DPP's refusal to prosecute.

If he really did rape her, then why arent ye screaming at the govt demanding a criminal trial?

The answer of course is that he would be found not guilty.

Mod Edit: Warning issued for ignoring mod instructions in OP

TheIrishGrover

Open justice....

And that's going to be my only reply to you. You can claim you Pwned me if you wish cos I will not debate you...

TheIrishGrover

Moving on. As for the case, can the "Award" be changed? Surely his subsequent actions and the actions of his business associates show that he continues to be a threat to her and her family and this should be taken into account.

reclose

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123063982#Comment_123063982

Is there any evidence reported on at all that would make you doubt McGregors innocence?

jj880

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123064043#Comment_123064043

It should be. We have a judge today stating McGregor has engaged in irresponsible comment attacking the jury verdict and calling Nikita Hand a liar. That's all well and good but needs to be followed up on or he'll keep at it. Hit him in the pocket.

Donald Trump

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123063914#Comment_123063914

What type of system would you like? A livestream hosted by Ant and Dec followed by people texting "yes" or "no" to a premium number?

You are going on about credibility. The only measure of credibility is that which has been assessed. On one side the perpetrator and his mate gave their "story". The victim gave her story. The jury decided which one was more credible.

To defend against a criminal charge, one only has to raise a "reasonable doubt" against one component of the charge. You don't need to be "more credible" than the other party. Or even credible at all. Just that there is an element of doubt left. In the vast majority of criminal cases, a defendant does not have to prove anything. Most defendants don't give evidence on the stand for this reason. They are presumed innocent and the prosecution cannot change that unless they can prove beyond reasonable doubt that you are guilty. A reasonable doubt could be a 5% or 10% probability that it could possibly have gone down another way.

In addition, there is a (controversial) defence allowed in all crimes that involve the absence of consent. That defence is that you honestly believed that there was consent - even if there was none and that there was no reasonable basis for your belief. It can be very difficult to get a criminal conviction for rape or sexual assault even where a reasonable person would conclude that there was very very likely a rape.

hamburgham

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123063630#Comment_123063630

Verbal evidence is rightly disseminated and published through the media. I do find it contradictory that video evidence isn’t also publicly available. It doesn’t seem right to me. I have no time for McGregor but I don’t think there is a lot of objectivity around this. This video isn’t available because it completely undermines her case. If the video supported her case, would it have been kept private ? I doubt it.

I also have reservations about this civil court process, well described by another poster as a halfway house.

Seth Brundle

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123064349#Comment_123064349

Isn't is odd that suddenly we have all these people with their "I don't like mcg but I disagree with the court not releasing the video because it shows she's a slut and we all know it" crap?

hamburgham

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123064398#Comment_123064398

They are words I did not say.

Our eyes don’t deceive us and maybe if we saw the video, we would wonder if the jury made a mistake. Are we not allowed think that?