The Traitors

Kolido · 12-01-2025 11:39AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123046830#Comment_123046830

Didnt something similar happen, cant remember which series or country. Durring the final banishment, there were 2 triators left and one was voted off. They dropped a hint before they left that there was still another traitor.

Basq · 12-01-2025 11:45AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123046873#Comment_123046873

Think it was Kieran's "parting gift" line to Wilf in S1.

yerwanthere123 · 12-01-2025 12:41PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123046830#Comment_123046830

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123046886#Comment_123046886

I've wondered too how this doesn't happen more often. I assume it's part of the contestants contract that it isn't allowed, and they're threatened with court if they deliberately bring the game into disrepute.

Mr E · 12-01-2025 12:46PM

Gave me a chuckle… I wonder if the painting will still be up the next day? 🙂

Necro · 12-01-2025 02:56PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123047083#Comment_123047083

I was amused about the length it took her to write these names in the first place, surely you'd just do a quick scribble but nope, not Linda🤣

JP Liz V1 · 12-01-2025 11:27PM

I think I nearly want Linda in until the final, hopeless but funny

13-01-2025 09:53AM

Loved the way Minah stepped in to save Linda on Friday. However, Minah needs to be careful with Linda. Not beyond the bounds of possibility that one of Linda's gaffs draws attention to Minah.

yerwanthere123 · 13-01-2025 10:02AM

I think Minah will defend Linda up to a point, but will have no problem cutting her loose if/when she becomes too much of a liability. The question then would be who would she choose to recruit. I think she'd want to stick to women, so maybe someone like Leanne?

I'm loving Linda and her mediocre acting though, hoping she stays as long as possible 😅

Penn · 13-01-2025 10:22AM

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Yeah pretty sure they're given strict enough guides on what they can and can't say, regardless of whether they're Faithful or Traitor. Kieran probably skirted that line a bit in the final episode of Series 1 with his "parting gift" comment, but I think the way the rest of the episode played out the producers and contestants were happy enough.

Personally I'd prefer if they weren't allowed to give final comments at all and could only say if they were a Faithful or Traitor, but then you have moments like Kas's great exit speech so I guess it balances out.

Although there was a lot of confusion about it in the first episode, I think it's a good idea that in the final episode, each player banished won't be saying whether they're Faithful or Traitor. In both previous series the Traitors' plan has been for two of them to get to the final, but then one ends up betraying the other so they can make it seem like the last Traitor has been caught (Wilf betraying Kieran, Harry betraying Andrew). This time they won't know if they've gotten the last Traitor or not. Could be interesting.

Salvation Tambourine · 14-01-2025 12:28PM

Anyone watching the 3rd season of the US one? Like other seasons most of them have played other games but this season they seem to be convinced that they can come in with a strategy and win that way no problem. It comes across like most haven't watched other seasons of Traitors.

There's a lot of very strong minded people in this season and big, big personalities (of course given it's American reality TV people).

I much prefer the UK ones but the US one fills the four day void.

Necro · 14-01-2025 12:29PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123054312#Comment_123054312

Yeah I've watched the first episode and a half it's quite good, though I hate the contestants are essentially picked from the Z list of Reality TV in the USA

Penn · 14-01-2025 01:43PM

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I watched the first US series where it was a mix of Z-list reality stars and normal people, and it kind of ruined the show a bit because a lot of the reality stars just knew how to play up to the cameras for attention and creating faux drama, and also knew each other (or knew of each other) a bit beforehand. Even towards the final few episodes it felt like the non-celebs who were left hadn't had any screen time at all. Might watch the rest of the US series', but it feels like the sort of thing where you have to watch it with a different mindset; that it's less about the game and more about the entertainment.

Necro · 14-01-2025 01:47PM

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That's exactly it. Definitely a completely different show to the UK one. They're all killing each other to be traitors for the most TV time

archfi · 14-01-2025 03:04PM

The US version is my least favourite because of the host and the z-list reality players but needs must so I'm acquiring it to tide me over till Wednesday.

Salvation Tambourine · 14-01-2025 03:15PM

Richard Osman said that the cast for the celebrity UK version could feature some really big names. Apparently there are loads of A-list celebrities that want to take part in it. Hopefully it's not just the usual panel show contributors and guests.

Meauldsegosha · 14-01-2025 03:48PM

There is a thread for the US version. It would be best to post on that thread so the two shows are separate.

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Panthro · 14-01-2025 04:42PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123047083#Comment_123047083

I thought something similar the other night. The bit where the Irish girl was given a letter offering to join the Traitors. I wonder if that letter is signed by a Traitor. Because if it is signed by a Traitor, would you not be able to match the handwriting to the names that are shown at the roundtable. If I were Anna I'd be glued to those tablets they hold up when they say who they're voting for.

maebee · 14-01-2025 05:21PM

I'd imagine that letter from the traitors would be immediately taken from the person who was invited, once s/he had read it. I wouldn't think the producers would allow him/her show the letter to the faithfuls.

Panthro · 14-01-2025 06:00PM

No but take our fan favourite Linda(!) Her handwriting is quite distinctive, like how she writes "F" for example. If you were given a letter she had signed, then you said "no" to being recruited.

Next night at the round table keep an eye out for the handwriting, like that "F". If you'd a keen eye (and not been banished or murdered in the meantime) you might be able to spot which traitor signed the letter.

bren2001 · 14-01-2025 06:34PM

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Ive often wondered that myself. I've always assumed that the producers write the name themselves on a separate note to avoid them working that out.

The writing on the painting is slightly different as it was a traitor challenge.

This is it · 14-01-2025 06:37PM

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Yep, that was my thinking as well. The note Faithfuls get isn't the one that the Traitors write. If it was, surely over 2.5 seasons we'd have heard something about handwriting, etc.

Panthro · 15-01-2025 07:28AM

Well well well,the plot like my gravy thickens:

HANDWRITING COULD HOLD THE KEY

The only time competitors usually see another person's handwriting – whether Faithful or Traitor – is at the round-table. They use chalk to write the name of the person they want to banish on a slate. Whenever the Traitors kill a Faithful or attempt to recruit a Traitor, they must write to their target on a scroll delivered by Claudia.

Evidence: Anna, the Faithful who declined the offer of becoming a Traitor, has seen a Traitor's handwriting. Will she correctly match it to Minah's at the round-table?

More damning still is the handwriting of second Traitor Linda, 70. She writes the letter 'z' in a rather unusual way, giving it a curly tail, as we saw when she wrote Fozia's name on her slate.

In the last episode, the Traitors were given a mission to select three Faithfuls for potential murder, and Linda was made to write their names – Fozia, Alexander and Leon Jackman, 40 – on headstones in a picture of a graveyard that hangs in the castle.

There, clear as day, is 'Fozia' written with that same distinctive curly 'z'. Uh oh.

Verdict: If the Faithfuls were a little less dozy it would be very easy to uncloak both Traitors based on their handwriting, but will they twig?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-14285671/The-Traitors-8-biggest-conspiracy-theories-debunked-CLAUDIA-CONNELL-gives-verdict-secret-pacts-couples-plot-holes-reveals-clue-staring-Faithfuls-right-face.html

bren2001 · 15-01-2025 07:43AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123057388#Comment_123057388

Article Is just idle speculation isn't it? It doesn't confirm or deny if Anna saw the handwriting or not but assumed she did.

I'd expect them all to see Fozias "z" but it should be clear to the viewers tonight. Either we'll be bluntly shown them seeing the painting or not.

Panthro · 15-01-2025 07:59AM

Yer taking the fun outta me conspiracy!

Grumble grumble.

Penn · 15-01-2025 08:08AM

The chances of them noticing the names on the painting are tiny imo. It's one of many paintings, about a week in to their stay there where they're likely blind to the paintings at this stage, and the writing is fairly small and doesn't look out of place from the painting. I really doubt anything will come of it.

Unless of course, Claudia gives a cryptic hint about it at breakfast, like last series where she said one Faithful was poisoned, which gave enough of a clue that they traced it back to the murdered person being given a drink, which led to Miles, and he was then banished.

bren2001 · 15-01-2025 08:53AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123057439#Comment_123057439

I kind of expect Claudia to directly show them the painting. Hold it up in front of them at breakfast or something. However, for handwriting reasons, they may not be shown it.

If she doesn't, the painting is likely removed. There's no way they noticed it before. The risk was getting caught writing it.

Necro · 15-01-2025 08:56AM

I think they have to show them the painting? There's no point of a task like that unless the information is provided to the players, imo anyways.

Penn · 15-01-2025 09:34AM

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I don't think so. The challenge was really for the Traitors to discuss who they wanted, find the quill and mark the painting without being caught (though I'm sure it was easier than the editing made it seem).

In Series 1, the Traitors had to kiss the Faithful they wanted to murder, so Amanda gave Amos a kiss on the cheek when leaving for the night. The next morning I think Claudia told the Faithfuls that the murder happened in plain sight during their gathering, but there wasn't enough info for the Faithfuls to really know what happened. Series 2 with the poisoned chalice murder, Claudia saying that a Faithful was poisoned, instantly gave enough of a hint that it was a drink, which meant a Traitor served a drink to a Faithful, and then depending on which Faithful was murdered they were pretty sure it had to be Miles (especially since the poisoned Faithful was still in the game and could explicitly say who served them a drink). To me that was too big of a hint, and led Miles to being instantly outed as a Traitor where there was no real suspicion on him before that.

It's likely Claudia will make some comment about graves or something, but it should be something which gives an idea or a subtle hint, without outright pointing them in the right direction (like actually showing the painting). Otherwise it ruins it a little bit.

Mr E · 15-01-2025 09:43AM

For Anna's recruitment offer, the 'reason' on the letter was that she was a "strong independent woman" or something along those lines. That's not something a man would typically write, so that should cut the number of suspects for her too…

bren2001 · 15-01-2025 10:03AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123057685#Comment_123057685

I don't think that enables them to eliminate anyone. There's at least 2 traitors left. It could mean that there's at least 1 woman but the other is a man. It could also be a bluff by the traitors knowing that a man wouldn't write that and throwing them off the scent. It's really easy for us because we know its two women.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123057663#Comment_123057663

The kiss and the cup were two very obvious acts in front of people. A statement about graves is incredibly obscure because I doubt anyone would notice that particular painting. You could easily be right tho and that painting is missing but the nail left in the wall and some comment about the writing was on the wall or something. The subtle hint being the traitors were in this room and needed a pen to write. Could possibly be stroking the quill as she tells them or something. That's probably akin to the two previous hints in the two previous seasons (ok, maybe the quill stroking is a bit in their face).

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HANDWRITING COULD HOLD THE KEY