Immigration and Ireland - MEGATHREAD *Read OP for mod warnings before posting*

It's doesn't even need to be a temporary cap, just a more selective criteria for the qualifications and skills we need in the country.

Not at all emo ..they have doubled their vote .

There wasn't even an eye roll on my comment so I think you are being over sensitive maybe 😉

What is racist though , is refusing to admit that our "creaking at the seams" has been going on for many years before immigration was being pushed to the fore by some as the reason we have not enough housing and services.

Where were all of the posters who go on about immigration being " the cause " back ten or 15 years ago when we had tiny numbers coming to our shores but similar difficulties with housing , health and services ?

Using immigration as a scapegoat is racist .

You have no idea that that will be the outcome for those who seek asylum really, but sure I am sure we will get a lesson from Sweden ?

I'm sure we all remember this story

https://www.sundayworld.com/crime/courts/woman-convicted-of-false-sex-assault-claim-says-she-has-no-issue-with-foreign-men/a1604973589.html

"She was sentenced to 200 hours of community service at Waterford Circuit Court last month."

What a sentence for the wasting of police time and making up false claims, putting innocent people at risk. Hardly serves as a deterent when there is virtually no repercussions for doing that.

I think though, you have to ask yourself, what is the purpose of job creation in a time of full unemployment? In the 1980s job creation was obviously a priority, but perhaps we have other priorities now such as the provision of housing to those already here.

It got little coverage on the previous iterations of this thread and even less traction .

Not surprising as the first " fake " report was plastered all.over the place .

There were many other " I never meant to be racist but .." episodes where it has been repeated that nobody minds legal migrants only those they consider to be " false asylum seekers " . But it's clear to see on this thread where there is a discussion about immigration generally that any pretence has gone out the window .

Maybe next there will be a discussion about how some nationalities are ok , but not those from Africa and Asia , never mind the fact that many working in our health services and other important areas are from those parts of the world .

But no it's not racist , it's just looking out for Irish people , Irish jobs and culture , and so on and on ...

I wonder who is funding this high court case

Good old NGOs which are funded by you and I, it's a sickening.

I personally think these NGOs are one of the biggest issues facing this countries immigration policy, far to much say and have a vested interest that this blight continues

It's like the " I'm not racist but..." statements .

Those have been said before and will be no doubt again .

I think it's pretty obvious from the rest of my sentence how I feel about that discourse ..

" never mind the fact that many working in our health services and other important areas are from those parts of the world ."

Did you miss that bit ?

That's the left for you, always need to feel a sense of moral superiority. Exactly like the religious zealots of old in Catholic Ireland. The people who today peddle this holier than thou crap would have been the religious gatekeepers of the past.

There are real issues around immigration in Ireland that are never discussed in an honest and open manner because of people crying racism once the subject is even raised.

We need to get a handle on how many people arrive here, how they're processed when they arrive, whether they have a genuine reason for being here, and integrating them into our culture and values before we end up with a mess like the UK have been dealing with in recent news articles.

We need to learn from the mistakes of others, not just repeat their mistakes.

People are entitled to their opinion. If people think this thread is a racist thread, whats the problem? Just get on with it and suck it up. Again, people are entitled to their opinion. Nobody has to prove anything to you. People will continue to think that this is a racist thread and full of racist people. So what? It's their own personal view. Sorry it strikes such a nerve but the whole free speech thing seems to be selective for some. I myself am not even arguing with anyone. I even block people who try to engage in bad faith arguments. I think you should just allow for the fact that people have different opinions and will express them. Now lets just get on with it.

People are entitled to think what they want based on what they read. I personally don't owe anyone anything and will continue to have my opinion, as will most viewers of the thread and I believe they will come to the same conclusion I have. There is not much point in continuing along this line of discussion other than to say that people are entitled to express their opinion. They are entitled to engage with who they want to engage with. This will be my last post to you on the topic, however I will continue to express my opinion, which I believe I have a right to. Now lets move on shall we.

No point having a debate with someone whoes whole arguement is wwwrascist!!.

Who is making "comments that could be considered libelous"?

Surely you are not going to post this and "offer no supporting evidence" that this happening?

I hope you don't think that's "how discussion works"?