Clampdown on TV 'Dodgy Boxes'

I've posted about this here before.

The new rights deal for the EPL that will come into effect in 2025/2026 and run for 4 years has a number of subtle differences that are a response to the perceived* growth of illegal streaming.

The EPL did away with the small package that Amazon won last time, this meant that it was harder for a newcomer to test the waters and thus more likely that the only ones really capable of bidding for the packages were Sky and TNT.

Which is exactly what happened.

So two providers instead of three, one less sub for the public to buy.

Plus they made the duration of the deal longer, again more costly for the bidder upfront which meant harder for a newcomer to enter.

They also increased the number of games shown from 200 to 270, and all games on a Sunday can be shown.

So out of 380 games only 110 will not be broadcast, and with the 3pm rule still in place in the UK one would assume that a majority of not all of those110 will be 3pm games, and they will be the less attractive games.

It's somewhat likely that all of the games of the big 6 or whatever they are called will be broadcast in the UK.

The longer duration of the deal has meant more upfront money than ever before for the EPL rights, but it translates to less money per game.

All of this helps the legitimate rights holders sell their products. They now can show more games than ever before.

*I say perceived because it's still not clear how much of an effect illegal streaming is having on the legitimate rights holders.

If the broadcasters were really worried they would have told the EPL that they were not willing to do a record deal and would have started with much lower offers and it would have dragged out much longer, with some packages going unsold initially.

Im still not seeing how the Sunday schedule is "the fightback" against IPTV and it seems you're not willing to expand on that.

As for the panels you're answering questions with questions after assertions about the end of IPTV. How do we get from "its like the end of card sharing" to the end of IPTV. Flesh it out a bit.

When you're resetting the router and clearing the cache.

What would be the exact correct order for all those steps?

Do you clear the cache while the internet is down.

I also plug in and out my android box for a fix

Another thing I do the odd time is force stop the Tivimate app as well as clearing its cache

But could someone outline what would be the exact order of all these actions, I'm just never sure if I'm doing it right.

The only people football was stolen from was the match going fan, both with price increases and ridiculous kick off times in relation to travel.

Thats not what I said. Calling it "the fightback" against IPTV is what I was querying. As if its in the balance or extra games on a Sunday is a silver bullet thats going to make a big difference. In my opinion its not going to make a big difference.

In previous posts you're talking about it like its some official response from the EPL to illegal streaming. Debatable. The idea of it being more likely a response from EPL instead of just accommodating viewers is fanciful at best.

I edited my post. "It" is obviously providing more fixtures on a Sunday.

Ok you understand broadcasting rights.

So you do think it's more likely a response to illegal streaming as opposed to the EPL just accommodating viewers? Fair enough. I dont.

People use IPTV (I find) for 2 key reasons:

• Being able to see all games/sporting events regardless of whether local broadcasters are showing them
• Cost

I reckon the vast, vast majority of people get IPTV for the cost reason, not the first. So even if Sky showed every match it wouldn't be a big impact unless the cost gets more competitive.

Only a fool is paying 130 a month for sports.

With discount codes on Now TV you can get Sky sports and BT combined for as low as €20 a month.

Legal services will never be able to compete with illegal services on price, the cost of the rights and the overhead cost of broadcasting the games make that impossible.

Illegal services have become very easy to use since you can just text a friend of a friend of a friend and they can drop a firestick in your letter box pre configured and ready to go.

But if that friend of a friend of a friend gets rumbled, or the services start blacking out during big events then people will obviously lose faith, and if there is an alternative legal service like Now TV, with more games than ever available, with discount codes they will become more attractive.

The EPL thought they would have 4 heavy hitters bidding on the rights, Amazon stated early on they had no intention on bidding on the rights with the prices quoted and pulled out.

The bidding war between Sky and TNT/BT ended a few years ago when BT got on the Sky billing platform.

The EPL know the lie of the land when it comes to the broadcasters and illegal streaming, they are no fools.

They engineered this auction to consolidate, as they knew the heat was going out of these auctions.

I disagree about the movies/etc. IPTV is great for live stuff, and yes they have a full catalogue of programs/movies that Netflix/Prime/etc can't compete with - but the quality and ease of use on a Netflix/etc is far and away better and I know a load of people who have IPTV services but also use Netflix or whatever. What I have noticed is more people using streamers for a period of time only though (e.g. sign up to Netflix for 1 month, watch what you want then cancel until the next thing you want is on).

Download Stremio, im not saying anymore about how to access TV and movies, you can figure it out yourself. The UI is fantastic, a proper made app.

You might fire me a DM with details so I can make a decent comparison perhaps?

Sounds like some IPTV movie + box set sections are definitely better than others. Mine is excellent. Trending, new releases, split up by year, genre etc. continue watching support and of course in the same app as live TV so handy to flick between. I have 4k netflix and prime video which I dont mind paying for but like feck Im paying for disney+, hbo max, paramount+, peacock, hulu, sky for their box sets etc. etc. The attraction is Im covered no matter what for pennies compared to all these subs. With a good IPTV package you never miss out. Watching Lockerbie: A Search For Truth at the moment. Excellent show.

Edit: I have free apps setup but I prefer the IPTV UI. Since Im primarily paying for the live TV offering why not use the movies box sets section also when its there.

Prime is pretty terrible, poor catalogue, buggy UI only for it comes with the delivery subscription, not a hope id pay for it.

Netflix has the best UI by far, but only for the kids watching it, I'd get rid. Trying to tell them go on to stremio and wait for a torrent to load up doesnt wash!

personally I unplug everything

Take cable from the nvidia shield aswell

I’ve rarely issues