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Room to Improve (v2)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,141 ✭✭✭✭anewme


    Lots of times I've been against getting stuff for the house and trusted the professionals and ended up loving it. Happened to me with green paint, funny enough.

    As for 320k building a house in the Country, sure wasnt it recently proved that it does not even build a bike shed here in Dublin.🤣



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39 Notimefarmer


    Not for me it isn't.

    It's like deciding to buy a new car and being gobsmacked about the features of a 70k car.

    What did she think she was going to get? Knock a wall, dryline and a lick of paint for 320k?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,947 ✭✭✭Ray Palmer


    No. Do you think if you got a grant to update your boiler they are going to tell you to remove the fire place? You can't even build a house in Ireland without a chimney



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 341 ✭✭itsacoolday


    If her salary is only 32k a year, as you say, no wonder she got such a shock when she saw Dermots plans for the first time, with 2 living room area, fancy extension, pool room etc. If I was earning that as well I would pinch myself and think I'd won the lotto if I thought I was going to end up in a house worth the guts of a million in Dublin.

    I still think the age 70 thing was a fib or a joke though unless she did not start working until age 30, as she can retire with lump sum and pension after 40 years.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,526 ✭✭✭Westernview


    You have obviously a more clinical, detached view on life than some of us. After saving up years for something and then you finally get it an emotional response is normal. its not all about the amount of money. She was obviously aware of her budget and that she was going to get something much better than what she had. But she didn't know what she would be getting and how far the budget would stretch in todays climate. Seeing the actual plans was probably a huge relief.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 315 ✭✭Feets


    Yeh they did put it in...there was a shot of the pipework before the concrete was poured onto it. Its kindve bananas to choose ufh at last minute. Speaking from experience, you need manifold cabinets in a few of the rooms and they can be ugly if placed in the wrong area.

    House looked great at the end. Not sure they left space above the kitchen windows for blinds which you need if you have a tv with the sun shining on it , thats my only note on design.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,313 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    People underestimate how hard it is to get an old house up to an A rating.


    Unless it's a complete new build, often it doesn't make sense financially. Therefore if the airtightness is not good enough to heat the home exclusively though an A2W HP, you will/may need a secondary source of heat, and reusing an old fireplace for a stove is the perfect option. You can get ones that use wood pellets. These are very efficent and environmnetally friendly.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,128 ✭✭✭GAAcailin


    I would have been interested in seeing this detail. We saw a shot of the fire having been ripped out but no coverage of what went in its place. The show spends ages on coverage that is not relevant (such as the visit to a house in Terenure) which added no value to the episode. Also no interest in the daughters gymnastics class.

    The last 30% of the build is always skipped over, why weren't the bathrooms shown- same as the Mayo one last week; no bathrooms.

    Weird the way Dermot presented them with 2 samples, one of the worktop and one of the presses and basically said - here this is what I have decided upon for your house. Like would they not make the choice themselves..

    re the pool room, we have a pool table here in what was the playroom, it gets lots of use; be easy to repurpose the room at another stage.

    Had to laugh at the mini goal for the 13 year old!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,947 ✭✭✭Ray Palmer


    I asked you a question. What is your problem with the government reducing it's costs and those of it citizens?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42 MyUnicornWorld


    I thought the couple were very likeable and they did a beautiful job. The insulation and underfloor heating will make the house lovely and warm.

    I would have gone for an electric fire, they look brilliant now and so easy.

    Not sure how the house could get an A/B rating when the upstairs wasn't done and if this affects the grants.

    Didn't see a downstairs loo or utility.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,779 ✭✭✭Deeec


    I really liked the finished house last night. Its a lovely comfortable family house for a nice family. I dont begrudge anyone building or renovating the grants at all. I sincerely hope they are have not overstrethed themselves financially though. The lady mentioned shes an SNA which doesnt have a high salary and I dont remember what the husband does. If they did pay for it from an inheritance or a redundancy then fair play to them.

    I think the production team should have made it clear how much still needs to be spent to finish upstairs. Really what they got was half the house completed

    However I do think the storage of the sons football equipment was a bit contrived. The goals, the cones, the hurdles etc are all outdoor equipment. We have all these and store them in the garage - they are never used in the house at all. Now at the start we were led to believe they had no storage for these items but then we are shown a big shed in the garden so why were these items not stored in the shed! Im sure they were stored in the shed and were bought into the house for drama. Im not sure the kids needed the 'play room' at their age at all. That space would have been better used as an office space and thats what it probably will be used for.

    If they are letting a 13 yr old boy play football in the house then it wont stay a nice house for long.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,526 ✭✭✭Westernview


    II agree that the football storage thing was contrived. Similar for the kitchen colour. Dermot probably got her to pretend she didn't like green just to have a bit of conflict. Similar to bed issue last week.

    Think it's a sign of agreeable clients and Dermot delivering that they want that they have to invent clashes over ideas.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42 MyUnicornWorld


    There's a video on the builders instragam of the completed house. Upstairs done too.

    Looking at the video the dining living area in the open plan is quite cramped. Probably just there for staging though.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,779 ✭✭✭Deeec


    Its like the families are told by the production team not to tidy up and to make the house look as messy and cluttered as possible when the cameras visit for the first time. There is no way the couple last night were living with shoes everywhere in the porch and kids outdoor clutter in the sitting room. If they were living like that the new extension will be a mess in no time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,408 ✭✭✭thereiver


    They probably bought the house because it's in a good area and has a large garden in a few years the kids can cycle to school. Why did they not show his new office it was so cramped before the work started and they did not show the new bathroom the pool table seems a waste of space in ten years time they could sell that house and make a nice profit when you re 60 you don't need a 60,ft garden when a child gets to be 16 they basically take care of themselves .

    I.m not a builder but 300,k seems a lot to insulate a house and build one extension

    We are in Celtic tiger mark 2 but it's worse as gen z can't afford to buy a house .

    Did they get a new bathroom at all



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 260 ✭✭littlefeet


    Some of the responses here are a bit odd the grants are a statuarty government scheme it's not means tested.

    There are millionaires who have purchased houses in Dublin and availed of all the grant and they have the luxury of employing an an project manager to over see the whole project.

    There should be more of a discussion on the cost benefit risk of buying an older house taking in to account the good public transport links good school in a lot of the older suburbs of Dublin.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,569 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    The flame/log effect is fake…very common. Basically an electric blow heater. I think some of them can be run without heat. If Bannon was sitting in that room with an actual stove with a roaring fire he'd have been perspiring. An actual stove of that size burning a fire like that would be totally unsuitable for small room like that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 341 ✭✭itsacoolday


    That's a great phrase you came up with.

    " we are in Celtic Tiger mark 2 but it's worse as gen z can't afford to buy a house".

    Are we the only country in the world where big grants are given out for home Renovations ( 95 k on the show a week ago, 35 k last night )?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 987 ✭✭✭mykrodot


    To be honest NONE of us here know the family circumstances!! We don't know how near or far the schools are away, we don't know about gymnastics or extra curricular sports but most people do their best to involved their kids in a sport or an activity rather than having them sit at home watching TV or on tablets becoming obese. People these days do NOT have the same choices as I had growing up, when houses were reasonable (even though interest rates were high), when people could buy a 2nd investment house, when they could choose where to live.

    In the last 8 years those choices are gone for many people. They buy a cold, damp house that was built decades ago and hope to be able to renovate in the future. This couple sound like they work their backsides off. Why the begrudgery?

    How do YOU know the mother could work part time? If they are paying a mortgage of €400K their mortgage was probably granted on the basis of 2 incomes! So she can't just "give up work"!

    Finally I would say that many contestants on these shows read comments here on Boards, or their families do. All this speculation is based on nothing you actually know………..would you say the same to their faces? You sound a little bit begrudging to me. If the Government make these grants available why should they not use them? They are not doing anything illegal!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,947 ✭✭✭Ray Palmer


    Now I simply don't believe you have researched grants all around the world to say that Ireland is the only country to give big grants out for home renovations. I just did a simple Google and found below. This is the same fund we use as other EU countries but you are absolutely POSITIVE no other EU fund is as generous as ours?

    https://energy.ec.europa.eu/topics/energy-efficiency/financing/financing-building-renovations_en



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,947 ✭✭✭Ray Palmer


    Like a BER rating? I have to wonder what more you are looking for



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 987 ✭✭✭mykrodot


    absolutely! The begrudgery from that poster is unbelievable. These SEAI grants are available to anyone, not means tested either.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,569 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Not the same fire at all actually.
    You may be completely correct by the way. I wouldn't labour the point.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 341 ✭✭itsacoolday


    Read what I wrote again, more carefully this time before you personally attack me. I asked the question "are we the only country in the world where big grants are given out for home renovations"( 95 k last week, 35k this week). Maybe you can tell us what countries in the world if any give non means tested grants of this magnitude. I am not saying there are not any, I am just asking how do we stand internationally. In America I believe there are grants but qualifications are extremely strict. Being a veteran helps but it's mostly income based, with the household income needing to be below 25,000 dollars per year or something like that? In England I understand there are some relatively small grants for upgrading insulation etc but these are means tested and only available in council tax bands A to D?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 341 ✭✭itsacoolday


    I did say earlier it was a lovely extension and the kitchen is very nice. In regards to grants, I also said , and I quote, " I do not blame the couple last night, well done to them but I am looking at the system, the situation of many young couples and wondering if something is wrong?"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,947 ✭✭✭Ray Palmer


    All you had to do was a quick google to find out because your question is to suggest you believe Ireland is somehow unique. If you think that is a personal attack I suggest you get a thicker skin.

    Germany

    The upper limit of eligible costs in the BEG WG and BEG NWG for residential buildings is max. 150,000 euros for efficiency houses 40 Plus or efficiency buildings with EE or NH class, otherwise the upper limit is 120,000 euros per residential unit. In the case of non-residential buildings, the upper limit is a maximum of EUR 2,000 per m2 of net floor area, with a maximum total of EUR 30 million.

    So the answer is no we are not the only country in the world that give out such large grants. I doubt we are even only one of 2 in the EU. You do get there are rules about how grants from EU funds are given? So if you want to know where we stand internationally consider we stand with the EU

    What is wrong with the government saving money for themselves and its' citizens?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 118 ✭✭rex_turner


    This is a genuine question - how do you store shoes for a family that is practical and neat? (And how many people in the household)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 341 ✭✭itsacoolday


    Grants for energy efficiency upgrades are strictly means tested in Germany, a.f.a.i.k., same as in USA and UK.

    Someone else else pointed out that someone spending over 300k on a renovation is going to ( or at least should) upgrade the insulation anyway.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 534 ✭✭✭Bargain_Hound


    The new layout leaves a lot to be desired for. That is a lot of money to spend on retrofitting something that to me ended up with that middle room for storage and a pool table, along with a downsized front living room. The extension interior out the back is nice but I bet an awful lot of the budget went on the architecture and aesthetic of the exterior, when a much more cost effective glass patio door setup could have been installed. The extension also looked a bit out of place and out of character compared to neighbouring properties (I know the rear doesn't really apply here, but visually that is my opinion).



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,779 ✭✭✭Deeec


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123051152#Comment_123051152

    We have storage in our utility room for shoes. In my old house we didnt have a utility room so shoes were stored neatly at the bottom of everyones wardrobes. I hate to see loads of shoes stacked by a door.

    I actually think the family last night are in reality neat people. The shoes at the front were for affect and drama only to give the impression they have no space - I doubt that lady allowed shoes to be in a mess at the front door.



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