Forming the next Irish Government - policies and personalities

Have MI5 not got somebody in FF?

 We expect 60k houses per year now. No excuses.

You come across like a character from Willy Wonka with that language.

what a load of anti democratic tosh!

Everybody voting for FF and FG knew the options for government and voted accordingly

A majority voted basically to keep SF out

Reflect on that maybe

Again, reflect on why you need to point over there when the issue is FF and FG consorting with somebody who committed profound and breathtaking corruption and is a convicted tax evader.
Good criminals v bad criminals is not going to cut it.

Did a majority vote for FF & FG consorting with Lowry?

You are terrified of FF or FG being criticised or shown to be hypocrites in pursuit of power. Why is that?

Lowry has been asked by 5 or 6 elected independents to head their negotiating team

That’s because he has experience doing deals with governments

A government cannot stop him voting for Micheál for Taoiseach as much as they can’t stop Mary Lou voting for him

That’s a contempt for democracy on display by you repeatedly

You might want to go into hibernation for a few more years if you’re genuinely disgusted

Just leave emails to on so you’ll spot a thread alerting you to when democracy aligns a bit more with your thoughts or those of your party

New opinion poll (remember them?)

Not much change except independents down bigly

But you clearly do,post after post after post have a problem with people eyes wide open voting en masse for Dáil Êireann to have a big majority not wanting SF in government

Giving out about who they voted for,criticising who amongst them is talking to whom,suggesting some should be left out despite being democratically elected

All that without pretending even a hint of irony when suggesting your own party is left out

That poll speaks volumes about the backwards traction in the type of opinion you’re expressing (from a very low base)

The sane position would be to reflect on why

You think the election has given you immunity from criticism.

Ain't gonna happen.

I fully accept what voters have chosen.
What you show is that you only respect voters that vote how you want. You can't take criticism. Criticism is 'ranting' and 'un- democratic' according to you Pureza. I would say that is an embarrassing.

I made a comment about something that is causing concern across the electorate, what happened? A pile-on by the usual few (you can count the accounts in and count them out) trying to deflect to a party that have sweet FA to do with this particular dalliance.

My post wasn't a 'rant', this is just your handy invention.

The dalliance with Lowry is raising comment across the political spectrum…I reflected that in a reasonable way, enter stage left the usual cast, deflecting and trying to flame and derail.

If you have no comment on Lowry being rehabilitated and enabled then we are done here. The size of your parties vote in the election doesn't come into it at all. You didn't achieve the right to silence people.

None of them have a mandate to negotiate with your party

Utter nonsense tbh.

There are no specific mandates given on who you negotiate with in an election. You are clutching at straws here and inferring things that you have no right and only an opinion to stand on.

*Your inability to focus on the points being made and making the thread about your quasi cross examination of me is an attempt to silence.

Deal with the points made and forget your obsessions.

Now that is all I am saying on this. As usual, because of the usual crew the thread is getting sidetracked.