Donald Trump the Megathread part II - mod warnings in OP, Updated 18/03/25

Have you been living a different reality to the rest of us?

I'm in my mid-40s and can hardly recall an event where Anerica was asked to get invoked in resolving a conflict, and did.

And yet they've been involved in countless conflicts worldwide in the same time span. Funny that.

There is no one else capable of defending the west like the US does. Unfortunately part of that protection involves dirty work to advance interests to maintain that protection. That's just the way of the world. Who else is going to do it?

If the US no longer wants the job of World Police, they could change things in an instance by calling for the restructure of the UN so it and other countries no longer have the ability to make it 90% ineffective.

But they don't want that.

They want to both be seen as the big dog in the yard, and to pull the strings of that institution also.

Or he’s a senile old man, if he ever tells Saudi Arabia, and the evangelicals waiting for their dungeons and dragons fantasy to play out in Israel to go f*** themselves, I’ll be impressed.

The US is not defending the West because of some innate love of the UK, Germany etc, it is defending itself and ensuring that the west continues on as the main power in the world with the US the head of that power.. To ensure that the likes of China and Russia are kept at the furthest distance they use other countries as their bases. It makes it much easier to fly sorties into Iraq, and Iran keeps tabs on China etc by having a presence in Israel, South Korea, Germany etc. They aren't doing it to protect them, it is to protect themselves.

Cuba is a perfect case in point. Russia got far too close so they unilaterally made Cuba an illegal country, and have used their financial might and control to try to get other countries to follow suit. There are no missiles in Cuba so why the need to continue on with the blockade?

The sanctions will only change when Cuba does what the US wants them to.

Doesn't matter if Trump is serious or not. It is completely unacceptable and every right-thinking person should be aghast that the POTUS, which claims to love democracy and freedom, is openly threatening peaceful and non-threatening sovereign states.

So between all this talk of invading allies sovereign land and forcing social media companies to be nothing more than propaganda outlets for misinformation and disinformation has anyone changed their minds who scoffed when I some time back, in another thread, compared Trump and MAGA to Nazi Germany? It is literally the same playbook being played out before our eyes.

The issue is his supporters and apologists are either in 2 camps. They stand to gain (Musk etc) or they are complete and utter morons (everyone else).

I had considered whom else, besides the nations whose territory Trump is so concerned about, he might have been addressing; as in China and Russia (or their satellite-proxies). Is that part of your consideration when writing about Trump's spoken words AND maybe the coincidental visit-message to Greenland of his son?

Cuba is a good example of hypocrisy from a couple different points of view. Obviously the attitude towards Cuba is more designed for people who fled it, but still they brown nose the Saudis. Then there are the perpetual student types who simultaneously think it’s some kind of paradise but held back at the same time by US sanctions (then again why does such a wonderful ideology need the capitalist pigs in order to prosper).

Northern Ireland is obviously a famous example, and one I thought everyone here would be well acquainted with.

This is Trump's last term

We heard that before.

Obviously I hope I am wrong, but the reality is Trump Junior is 100% on his way to running in the next election.

You'd imagine after 4 more years of Trump muscle memory will kick in and the electoral remorse will be savage, but you just don't know in these times, let alone in 4 years time.

Every land border is made up, that's not the point.

The point is how conservatives world wide treat them like their sacrosanct and here the face of the "in your face" conservatism is reminding everyone they're just imaginary.

As I said, imagine AOC saying similar and think how she'd be responded t.o

FDR had 4 terms, not unprecedented.

He will want to colonise Colombia for his own…personal pastimes 🤣