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Room to Improve (v2)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,408 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    Exactly that felt a bit manufactured for drama. Pain in the arse to dust them, they also weren't lined up...

    Same with the bed, she should be able to put it where she wants it. I personally think the second option made the most sense, but it's her blooming house.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,692 ✭✭✭the_pen_turner


    i like the idea of an upside down house but it doesnt work in this case as others have pointed out. far to impractical for the everyday tasks.. if there was parking at the front and a tiny garden at the back it could work but not the other way around.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,750 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    Sitting down to watch last night's show..

    I'm not going to last these docu dramas much longer.

    These episodes get more maudlin and less about architecture and renovation with each series.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 367 ✭✭itsacoolday


    It is very unfair he is able to get 95k for his client for a new build ( the side walls, roof, back wall , floors , internal walls, etc were all replaced) , when other couples elsewhere in the country, who have been struggling and paying their taxes here for the past 15 years, were told they could get no grants for the same thing.

    It is the taxpayer here who paid the 95k. I know taxpaying couples here who employed similar expensive architects and were definiely told by the planners they could not get grants just by keeping a front wall.

    You are right there. Plus the other design, the one which got planning, had a nicer front elevation and more practical layout, bedrooms upstairs instead of downstairs, back door not going through bedroom etc, different size void I think etc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,653 ✭✭✭✭salmocab


    Me thinks Bannon didn’t for a minute think she’d go for that and was just saying it for the argument that would follow



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,512 ✭✭✭Former Former Former


    The problem is that these smaller projects don't really have enough design content to sustain a whole episode so they need a bit of fluff to pad it out.

    The show used to get a lot of stick for featuring these big jobs with enormous budgets and it seems like they've made a conscious decision to move away from that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,543 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    As usual the programme was let down by the inclusion of all the unnecessary personal stuff about the owner's social life and the manufactured arguments over the joists and location of the bed in the master at the expense of details of the design and build.

    Felt they missed a lot of opportunities to include more of the old furniture and fittings in the new build. Surely they'd have been able to salvage enough from the shop and abbatoir fittings to build a characterful kitchen island? Seemed a rather wasteful lot though: a lot of good stuff getting hurled into a skip just like all the food they left rot in the empty shop instead of dropping it all off to a local charity foodbank etc.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 987 ✭✭✭mykrodot


    Lovely woman and her sister was too, it was a really nice house and I am delighted to see these derelict town houses being renovated. Irish towns are full of them and I completely support any grants that allow this to happen. It regenerates towns, saves on building on big green sites in the country, is a doddle to connect to all services, (mains water, mains sewage, broadband, a greener option too as less driving to get to shops and schools)

    Was there a back garden in this house? If so it means she has to go through the bedroom with plants and tools and compost to do a bit of gardening? Or was there an entrance to the back of the property I missed? I wouldn't want that myself.

    Having a kitchen, utility area downstairs is so practical, even in this kind of Winter weather for bins, bringing in some logs for the fire, feeding the birds etc. I wonder when people get older is having the kitchen upstairs a good idea with navigating stairs , mobility issues etc?

    Overall this girl had her head screwed on and it's her decision where she puts her bedrooms and kitchens. It didn't come across that Dermot was dictating the project, she had her own ideas and stuck to them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,315 ✭✭✭chooseusername


    It's in "Entertainment > Television> Reality TV" though.

    Not "Home &Garden > Construction & Planning"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,543 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    Dermots drawings showed a car parked behind the house so presume there's rear access?

    @chooseusername I don't disagree with Boards.ie's classification of the show, I just think it'd be far more interesting viewing if it were edited more as a Home & Garden show…



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,527 ✭✭✭Westernview


    The show seems to have evolved from the earlier over designed, over budget glass boxes with confrontational clients who had more money than taste. This appealed to many for the drama effect and was perfect for social media reactions. I prefer the more realistic-to-build format that they have now. The efforts by Dermot to manufacture controversy is a bit cringe but I can live with the tradeoff.

    As others have mentioned some more info on heating systems and how they achieved energy ratings would be useful but then the show changes again into something else.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,315 ✭✭✭chooseusername


    I just think it'd be far more interesting viewing if it were edited more as a Home & Garden show…"

    So do I, but I suppose it's for the viewing figures.

    There is rear access ;



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 367 ✭✭itsacoolday


    And the rear access in to the house then is through the big glass door in to the master bedroom ! Past the bed which the controversy was about.

    The design which planning was got for in 2022 was very different. Was it changed for the sake of change, because a different firm of architects came up with the 2022 design? You can have a look - it is in the public domain from Mayo co. Co., by going in to www.eplanning.ie, click on Mayo, and it is planning number 2250.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,589 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Renovating/rebuilding in tight spaces is always a series of compromises/trade offs. Programme is good at highlighting how people build spaces to suit their needs.
    The 'needs' here would not be mine but the client seemed happy with the compromises and with what she got.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,144 ✭✭✭mrslancaster


    Lovely finished home but agree with others about the upstairs living area. IMO the living area downstairs and connected to that outside yard makes more sense. The rear space would make a lovely town garden and patio for summer, bbqs etc. right outside the kitchen or living area.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 367 ✭✭itsacoolday


    Interesting to see what the rest of us could do or can be done / got for half a million or 557,000 in today's economic climate too. Say 100,000 or 150.000 for existing building ( seemed structurally sound, was there a long time, no damp ) , say 350.000 for building work and finishing off, say 50,000 for architect, quantity surveyor, ber, planning, stamp duty etc. Maybe another 5,000 or 7,000 to finish the outside at the back, back gate and wall etc.

    Would be interesting to see it valued now. Some property programmes in us and uk do that. Could help solve the housing crisis if developers here were also able to buy old properties and rebuild them, but could they pay overheads like accountancy fees, bank interest, legal fees etc and still make a profit? Would be great if they could.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,051 ✭✭✭✭PARlance


    That original design was a much better one imo.

    But I guess Dermot has to add some 'wow factor' for TV. He flipped the living area upstairs and tried to sell it as capturing the magnificent views… fair enough if you're on the coast etc… but the magnificent views in this case was a church carpark to the front and some green area to the back.

    I enjoyed the show (I've accepted that it's more entertainment that architectural) and I thought the house turned out very well at the time but the more I think about it, the more I think his design was awful... The master bedroom being the back door of the house, no wonder she wasn't comfortable with it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,766 ✭✭✭ec18


    did the rear have no gate or was it open access. I couldn't make out in the end if the back of the house was just open to the laneway behind



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,315 ✭✭✭chooseusername


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,572 ✭✭✭KevRossi


    Anybody know when they're putting it up on the Player? Can't find it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,315 ✭✭✭chooseusername




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    It was there yesterday. I needed to select Season 16, it defaulted to the last episode of season 15.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,274 ✭✭✭kirving


    That's the thing with smaller towns, smaller businesses, and a strong local community. There's just no way that building didn't hide a little surprise or two.

    The builder (and client in this case) know very well that that a 20 second clip of him negotiating costs on national TV will cost him more than the publicity is worth.

    The other celebrity builder, Peter Finn, who is very often on TV (and to be fair seems absolutely sound too) is well able to push back on cost/timing for pure entertainment purposes and it'll never cost him a penny.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 367 ✭✭itsacoolday


    The great thing about a new build though is that there should not have been any surprises : did not they knock down everything apart from front wall, and replaced side walls, internal walls, back wall, floors, roof, electrics, plumbing, heating, all windows doors etc. It was not a refurbishment.

    However I'd say you have a point in that some of the other suppliers who got free advertising are possibly exceptionally keen with their quotes as they know they will be on national tv. So has anyone else around the country done something similar and if so how much did it cost, out of curiosity? Do not tell us it was say €190,000 for existing sound building, €5,000 to demolish, €400,000 for new build, €55,000 for professional fees …total €650,000? I'm sure there are many people around the country would like to know if it is a project worth doing for themselves.

    Good tv anyway, especially as housing is a thing of interest to many people.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 249 ✭✭headtheball14


    This is the first room to improve I actually enjoyed in a long time. there are some nice design touches and good to see an imaginative approach rather than unlimited budget and massive house

    also really nice to see that she has used so many local suppliers for everything . They all seem to be mayo Sligo in the list



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,051 ✭✭✭✭PARlance


    I was surprised to see Munster Joinery for the windows, there's quite a large window company in the town itself, but I think the show seems to have some sort of arrangement with MJ as they always seem to be used.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 367 ✭✭itsacoolday


    I think the Show producers may have a deal going with some Dublin suppliers too, as they list the lighting shop retailer from Dublin, and on the show website for this Mayo project both planting suppliers and all 3 furniture shop suppliers were all listed from Dublin. Which is fine.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,543 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    I believe that the furnishing we see on the show is usually from a staging company rather than the owner's own stuff which would explain the furniture shops being listed being from Dublin.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 367 ✭✭itsacoolday


    Correct, and I believe from someone who was on the show once that the house owner is offered the furniture at a knock down price afterwards, rather than take it back to Dublin.

    Nice house, but do you think it is worth the 430.000 or whatever it would cost anyone else to build? I see a similar old derelict shop with dwelling overhead in a similar little village for sale for 250,000. Would it be worth knocking it and rebuilding, even if the refurbishment 95k grant could be got ( which is unlikely as the co. Co. said no)?



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