Strange Beliefs

End of people having their parameters redefined for them by a minor sub-sect in society. To address this, I am with you in that trans women are women. I don't care do what you want.

But for example, I am not being told they/them are now acceptable pronouns. No. Those words mean a plurality, like a group or on an odd rare occasion a reference to an individual ("they went there" but even then most say "he" "she" or the name of the respective individual).

You don't just get to take something and say this is what it means to you now. No it doesn't. No one owns words or concepts like gender.

My Dad is 70 years old. And now he's being told all this identity politics and he has turned around in no certain terms and said I am 70 and someone is telling me I've been wrong my whole life. And that man having a baby is in fact not a woman. Do you see where it comes from?

(On that before you clap back on that point. If you identify as a man who is pregnant fine, society has facilitated that and you can be seen as such also if it makes you feel validated then go for it)

You can identify as who you want to be. Cool no one hurt or no one else's business. But you're not going to turn around to me and tell me the sky is green and I now have to accept that because otherwise I am denying you social freedom.

I'm not, but the arrogance and hubris to redefine something that has worked perfectly fine for centuries for the majority of people is a little grating.

It's the putting it on people that this has to be this way or you're the worst. It is so ironic as well that the movement in identity politics stems from a place of empathy but when someone has a different idea of what constitutes identity in an individual they're wrong? No, they have a different opinion.

As long as they do not see you as lesser or insulting you over it than why do you care? Smacks of totalitarianism, and silence we are the only voice, and all other voices are heretics/dissenters and to be banished (cancelled if you will).

To draw a maybe easier example. Religion, I hate it with a passion, but I exist perfectly fine with it side by side with individuals in my life. I don't understand it but can respect your autonomy to hold that belief. Just don't start bleating prayers at me.

In essence, you do you and I'll do me. But don't you dare tell me how to think.

Indeed such an odd one, have always referring to Boards posters as "they" since forever (often can't tell from a name which sex they are)

All of us have. It wasn't an issue 10 years or 20 years ago or whenever.

The meaning of the post that you profess not to understand is crystal clear - it really does not require any explanation.

Why the pretence?

Great, and that's fine but the real world vernacular doesn't work like that. Too lazy and threw a query in to chatgpt here's the result below of just two examples:

Example 1: Group vs. Singular Ambiguity
Person A: "Taylor said they were going to the party."
Person B: "Wait, who else is going? I thought it was just Taylor."
Person A: "No, just Taylor. 'They' is Taylor's pronoun."
Person B: "Oh, got it!"

Example 2: Multiple Individuals in Context
Person A: "I was talking to Jordan and Alex, and they said they wanted to come too."
Person B: "Who wanted to come—Jordan, Alex, or both?"
Person A: "Oh, I meant Alex. Their pronouns are they/them."

Imagine in a time-sensitive, information-sensitive time wherein clear identifiers need to be used.

As I said you do you, but that is absolutely where people are coming from. You can't just hijack language and deem this is what I'm called now if it's completely non sensical. And it is, for the above.

We use language to communicate and offer specifity when needed there is no way in hell that above is going to fly in everyday conversation.

You can call yourself what you want and ask me to call you that but if you cannot be even fckn arsd to make it make sense to me, then go away with your arrogant presumption we'll just make it work cos you need to feel valid. F off.

Like when someone says they're trans, I can understand oh ok this person considers themself transgender. Almost like it's a specific term to denote an individual.

Only when the previous context has been established.

"Where's sean?"

"they went out for an hour"

Or if a name, person has been mentioned before.

Way too grey and uncertain. Would need to add more context and at that point you're explaining their pronoun is they/them defeating the purpose of just having something to identify with immediately.

Like I don't know what I have to explain here, it's a term that can mean plural and singular. It's ambiguous not specific enough and therefore not good enough to be used as an identifier, simply do better.

Non-binary donkeys!

And the chicken said:

Now those memories come back to haunt me

They haunt me like a curse

Is a dream a lie if it don't come true

Or is it something worse …

Did anyone ever suggest that you would need "to think like you or hold your beliefs"?

Someone is coming to fix your computer, you don't know their name. If I ask you what time the computer person is coming, how would you answer?

They're coming at 2 o'clock.

It's not complicated unles you make it so.

Has your wife been living in a cave for the last ten years or something, that leaves her unaware of the existence of transgender and non-binary people?

No, you just pretended not to understand my post, and you haven't got a leg to stand on. You are bereft of any meaningful comeback, so don't pretend otherwise.

And as regards the non-binary computer engineer, well seeing as neither of us believe in the ideology then "they" is of course in reality he.