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How to avoid homelessness?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,458 ✭✭✭✭Idbatterim


    I agree, but blame the system that encourages them, to do this…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,607 ✭✭✭thereiver


    i dont think you could live off grants scholarships for 20 years



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,080 ✭✭✭gameoverdude




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 788 ✭✭✭20/20


    You probably could if the supplementary income involved being assaulted or shot.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,607 ✭✭✭thereiver


    I don,t think someone is serious if they say they ran a brothel years ago ,i think he,s being sarcastic .its tough for anyone if you rent a house for years and you then get notice to quit .



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,068 ✭✭✭mondeoman72


    Not going to say a lot on this. I may have the option to move out.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,299 ✭✭✭Emblematic


    I suppose the reason why I was asking is that moving into the attic and availing of the rent-a-room scheme is always an option (assuming you have the space available), whereas completely moving out and leaving the place empty depends on things like (as an example) being offered a job elsewhere. I could not think of a particular event that would provide the option or necessity for both those things.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,339 ✭✭✭meijin


    you said the RTB process is finished

    not sure about exact details of your agreement, and if somehow it might prevent you from the following steps, but technically if you overhold after the RTB final Determination Order deadline, and the LL would need to go to District Court to enforce the Determination Order first - see https://www.rtb.ie/dispute-resolution-services/enforcement-of-determination-orders and linked PDF files there for details

    after that the LL would need to get the Sheriff to physically remove you from the building

    while not without risk, and going to court might involve additional costs (you'd need to pay LL legal fees, assuming you will lose the case), this could buy you some time

    EDIT, to add, from someone's comment a while ago how to delay an eviction (I've no idea how valid it is, might be unrealistic):

    • resists enforcement at the District Court, 
    • appeals to the Circuit Court, 
    • judicially Reviews the District Court or the Circuit Court of both of the appeals
    • the result of the Judicial Review to the Court of Appeal or the Supreme Court or both of them. 
    • After that, they resist the sheriff.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,068 ✭✭✭mondeoman72



    If you had the option to move out of your house and live elsewhere, what do you do with your house? Rent it to a tenant - refusing HAP is illegal, yet they can stop paying and you get nothing. RTB shafts the LL. Mrs O'Bumble in post number 2 above advised OP to overhold- with advice like that, why would I bother. Or you can keep a room and live there and let the rest of the house on rent a room where tenants are licencees. 14k per annum tax free if you live there yourself. You keep your rights and no RTB concerns. Or rent the house at market rate of 2500 per month or whatever and pay 50% tax………..

    Then you see cases like this where someone is in diffiulty (assuming they are genuine - ZERO offence intended), and you can help but the system shafts you. What do you do?

    Im currently assessing what to do and am following threads in the forum closely.

    MM



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,068 ✭✭✭mondeoman72


    Holy crap. Just seen this as well. Why would someone bother renting to someone in need ? For the record, I managed two houses where the owner moved abroad, one house was wrecked by a nigerian family on the scam and the replacement family was from chechnia and were I want, I want, I want. I'm entitled to this and this and this.

    The second house has another family in it and they are fine.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,299 ✭✭✭Emblematic


    Yes but the point is, keeping a room and renting the other rooms is not the same as moving out. The reasons you might move out might that there's some opportunity some distance away that you would need to move out of your house to avail of, so you might choose either to rent out the house or keep it empty. But staying in the house does not fall into either of those categories.

    If, as you say, your house will be empty, then you can't avail of the rent-a-room scheme. This is not an option as you will be out of the house.

    I don't want to make a big deal out of this but your initial point did not make sense is all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,068 ✭✭✭mondeoman72


    Very fair point. I am gathering info at present. Do I vacate and rent out - opening me up to HAP, RTB and bad tenants and grief, or move my family out and stay here as owner occupier and keep my full rights and let the rooms.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,299 ✭✭✭Emblematic


    If you don't mind being away from your family and don't mind sharing with strangers, then the rent-a-room scheme has tax advantages as well as easier termination of licences as opposed to tenancies. Presumably you would be doing this to make a bit of extra money as otherwise you would be moving with your family.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,607 ✭✭✭thereiver


    You can get advice from focus or threshold they have websites ring after 9am



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9 Wollmilchsau


    Thank you for the explanation!
    In other circumstances I would maybe do that.
    But the RTB process finished with me reaching an agreement with the LL.
    In other words: I said that I'd be moving out.
    I've lived here long enough and I know that "right" is equated with "legal" or "doable" here.
    But, as strange as it may seem to you, I'll keep my word.

    I rang the LL yesterday and they gave me 5 more days. But some 30cm of snow fell here since Friday and it won't thaw till next Monday, because the temperatures have been around 0 and keep dropping.
    I am losing about 10 days to the weather. I had to cancel the NCT appointment and the storage I had organized because I can't drive out of here, the OT can't get here for an assessment, adverts buyers cancel and give me negative feedback because they can't collect, etc etc

    It looks like I'll lose my dog, my belongings and I'll be a cripple living in a tiny old car without NCT, in winter with a compromised immune system and people not missing opportunities to tell me that it was my fault, that I have to work and exchange my driver's license.

    I could die of course. But it is probably more likely that I will end up in a hospital.
    So I'll be warm pampered and fed and the hard working taxpayers here will pay way more taxes to finance that.
    Best country in the world. Proud to be Irish.



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