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1st January 2025 - 8th January Snow Potential, Freezing Conditions - Discussion

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,830 ✭✭✭.Donegal.


    ECM in and its poor for me. Moves through faster, going for nutty accumulations again 40cm around Clare.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,194 ✭✭✭John.Icy


    ECM rolling out on WX. It's a couple of miles (literally) better off for us. Watched it frame by frame. Low slightly shallower it seems, which gives us that little bit of help. The below is the worst of it in terms of the northwards progression before the pivot and colder air quickly returns to the entire island.

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    EDIT: "us" is very ambiguous there. ECM is still a poor option for many in the southern 3rd, and great potentially for those north of the boundary.

    If my knowledge doesn't deceive me, the boundary (but the right side of it) is where the most potential can be in these events. Most moisture available right?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 247 ✭✭Ros4Sam24




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,604 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    Bank! Sorry the Brendan Grace character in Father Ted is coming out in me now. I still fear this could go too far north but as you said with a flabbier core it could correct south in the end .



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,604 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    WolfeEire has taken over the controls of the ECM it seems.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,031 ✭✭✭icesnowfrost


    The cold spell is certainly not on the way out that’s for sure. This is going to come down to a now cast as regards snow over the weekend. Many times no snow where I am and 3k away the place was plastered.

    I think some county’s are going to see the best snowfall we’ve had since 2018. Some will see little to none and some will see snow that was previously not even a chance (now cast)

    Sunday into Monday looks good for the east- north east.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,540 ✭✭✭WolfeEire
    Clare (430ft asl)


    A slider type effect where it would push north and fall away southeast or eastsoutheast. At the moment it generally is tracking eastnortheast which is why it pulls up much milder air.

    www.weatheire.com



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,194 ✭✭✭John.Icy


    GFS vs ECM.

    Sunday 6am

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    Sun 12pm

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    ECM takes the low more E/ENE into mainland UK. GFS pulls the low much more north, by 6pm it has the low centred near Belfast while the ECM has it off over mid-England and much shallower and more elongated. Which is good.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 103 ✭✭ClimateObserver


    UKMO:

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    GEM:

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    GFS:

    GFSOPUK12_78_25.png

    ICON:

    ICOOPUK12_78_25.png

    IRIE:

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    Interested to see the next IRIE update.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,415 ✭✭✭✭Oscar Bravo


    A light shower of Snow at Knock at 6pm

    EIKN 021800Z 35005KT 290V020 9999 -SHSN FEW009 SCT018CB BKN050 01/01 Q1026 TEMPO NSW



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,186 ✭✭✭wazzzledazzle


    Take what he told you with a large grain of that salt they’ll be treating the roads with



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,288 ✭✭✭Dazler97


    It sure is but I'm still in monitor mode until Saturday afternoon, not getting to excited just yet 🙃



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 103 ✭✭ClimateObserver


    For what it is worth, the BBC get their forecasts from a private company, not the UKMO.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,433 ✭✭✭Dotsie~tmp


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    Brace yourselves.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,288 ✭✭✭Dazler97


    I've never seen so much in met eirreans outlook

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,604 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    The cold spell is not on the way out, the issue is who misses out on snow at the weekend. What we can say is that after the rain, sleet and snow clears away late Sunday, it will get cold nationwide with severe frosts and icy conditions for much of next week. Over any snowfields it will be even colder still.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 353 ✭✭ThaitaniumM


    ECM a small saving grace but still very borderline where I am. I.e. Limerick City



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 836 ✭✭✭bazlers


    Whatever does fall especially in midland regions will freeze on impact with those cold ground temps. Hazardous roads for sure.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,539 ✭✭✭esposito


    ECM solution without a doubt please.

    We do not want the milder air to make much progress up the country at all as per the GFS.

    I’d love a further correction south purely just from an IMBY perspective.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,488 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    Theres been no flip on the models lads, it's more or less figuring out where the system will land. Too far north and it's rain for everyone, too far south and most of the country miss out on any precip.

    I find once a few posts go a bit pessimistic everyone panics and starts firing the toys from the pram! Human nature huh?

    Regardless, the weather will do what it wants to do and it's only an educated guessing game you play here with the forecasts. Slight upgrades or downgrades aside, looks like a very cold snap.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 333 ✭✭ascophyllum


    Whatever about the snow and where it lands, for many, precipitation plus freezing temps over a few nights = travel chaos. I can see a lot of schools unable to open on Monday morning due to either snow or black ice.

    Given we're still very close to day length minima, the sun doesn't rise until near 9am and for rural schools especially, they're often the first people out on the roads from 7.30am onwards in the pitch black. It's hard to make a call to mobilise children into black ice conditions in the dark - not fun being a principal over the next few days.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,540 ✭✭✭WolfeEire
    Clare (430ft asl)


    ECM is a little further south on my reading which consequently brings the threat of snowfall further south. The latest run is at the top, morning run at bottom. The snow risk remains most likely north of a line from mid-Clare to Louth and higher ground south of this.

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    www.weatheire.com



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 88 ✭✭Gizit


    Fwiw the updated Met Office fax chart puts the pivot point about where the ECM puts it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,540 ✭✭✭WolfeEire
    Clare (430ft asl)


    Whatever about us, much of England has been royally screwed by the modelling for those seeking snow there. Rotten luck.

    www.weatheire.com



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,243 ✭✭✭squarecircles


     Very cold with temperatures expected to fall to between -7 or -8 and -2 degrees in light variable breezes.Wednesday: Bitterly cold on Wednesday with freezing fog, lying snow and icy conditions. Mainly dry, with just well scattered showers in the north and northwest. Daytime temperatures could be as low as -5 to +2 degrees.

    The cold snap of weather will continue to the end of next week, with the likelihood of more persistent falls of rain, sleet and snow,

    yes this extended cold spell is really falling apart .Christ. Rolls eyes*



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,547 ✭✭✭munsterlegend


    Considering past January milder weather it certainly is a change..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 967 ✭✭✭downwiththatsor




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,131 ✭✭✭redsteveireland


    Reeling in the years RTE, first clip, the big snow in the early 80s, how appropriate, maybe.



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