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1st January 2025 - 8th January Snow Potential, Freezing Conditions - Discussion

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,887 ✭✭✭✭Esel
    Not Your Ornery Onager


    30mm is just over 1 inch.

    30cm is just less than 1 foot.

    Not your ornery onager



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,392 ✭✭✭mcburns07


    I can't bring myself to get excited for snow in Cork, just looking forward to some more days like today, beautiful weather. Good for the soul.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,346 ✭✭✭Rebelbrowser


    I'd argue that shows heavy snow for norhh cork and much of the rest of munster and rain for the Cork urban area!

    More generally, unless Arpege is correct, the tendency on other models to have the low making good progress north is bad news for everyone. Its curtains for us down here, but its probably bad news for most wherever you are. The further south the low stays the more the cold pool stays in place and mixes in with the precipitation as the low is sent packing (ideally south eastwards)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 377 ✭✭YanSno


    All models combined here's where I think there could be accumulations from 10cm to 30cm. North of that 5cm - 10cm

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 518 ✭✭✭Donegal Ken


    At the moment taken all the forecasting models in account Anyone in the Midlands should prepare for significant snow accumulations, at this stage the risk here is highest.

    Northwards From Clare, Limerick, Dublin if you where to draw a line.

    Southwards if you draw a line from South Mayo, South Sligo, Cavan, Belfast. These areas do look the most likely.

    Areas further north also look like they could see some moderate accumulations.

    If there are no big changes in models by the morning then orange level warnings will be issued much of Connacht, Leinster and parts of Ulster.

    There has been a big escalation in organising meetings tomorrow morning with the local authorities and The National Directorate for Fire and Emergency Management so I do think red warnings will come.

    Away from the weekend they will also be taken into consideration the effects conditions will have next week with very low temperature by day and night which is dangerous for a country that is not use to these conditions.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,805 ✭✭✭Rougies


    Yep Arpege sticking to it's guns regarding a more southerly track. It's actually almost exactly the same as the 6z, which makes you wonder about it's starting data. Exactly what I'm expecting for Wexford, don't know why I'm torturing myself already but shure look.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,186 ✭✭✭wazzzledazzle


    I'd say based on the criteria used and some of the forecasts, it looks almost certain of some red level warnings over the next week

    Snow/Ice

    10cm or greater in 6 hrs
    15cm or greater in 12 hrs
    30cm or greater in 24 hrs

    Low Temperature/Ice

    Air minima minus 10C (or below) for three consecutive
    nights or more. Maxima of minus 2C.
    Dangerous surfaces due to ice and/or lying
    snow/freezing rain. Situation likely to worsen.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,540 ✭✭✭WolfeEire
    Clare (430ft asl)


    Based on past experience, I still believe this system will ultimately adopt a more southerly track. Based on what normally happens, the systems that normally track north with each passing run are deep lows. This is a flabby mess. and they tend to track south as we head closer to the event. If GFS tracks a little further south on the 12z, then we may be seeing that change.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 999 ✭✭✭MrDerp


    Tempt fate by getting enough breakfast food to feed them on Sunday morning, sure way to deflect the weather.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 353 ✭✭ThaitaniumM


    The Arpege won it out in November. Will it do the same for this event I wonder. But I'm also ready for disappointment 😄



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,243 ✭✭✭squarecircles


    12Z GFS Connaught getting burried

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,641 ✭✭✭✭Supercell


    I'm sorry but with a thickness of 546 its going to be rain in most places on Sunday. Enjoy the nice crisp weather before and after Sundays cold rain. The North and NW might get some wintry showers from Monday onwards. But i think Sunday is washout territory for most.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 377 ✭✭YanSno


    This sounding at 00:00 Saturday night location kilbeggan strongly supports snowfall with a high likelihood of snow reaching the ground intact. The combination of surface temperatures at freezing, a fully saturated column, and a freezing layer down to the surface makes this an ideal profile for snow.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 836 ✭✭✭bazlers


    Is there a fax on the trailing front itself from the low yet?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,401 ✭✭✭emo72


    I'm following thread from the start. I'm in west Dublin, and still have no idea what to be praying for, stay south, move north? There's gonna be a north/south dividing line between rain and snow?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 247 ✭✭Ros4Sam24


    Gfs gone slightly north, would i be overconfident in an orange warning for Roscommon?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,641 ✭✭✭✭Supercell


    Look at this sequence, the cold air aloft stays to the north. @YanSno I do agree that (forecast) sounding looks good, I just don't see how the surface temperatures can be cold enough with a strong easterly coming from an Atlantic low with lots of mixing as the occluded front to the north would indicate

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34 Batcheese


    I'm in limerick and made the silly mistake going by previous information of telling the kids we could be in for a snowfall. Now it seems we won't. I should really have held off telling them. We did well in November for snow though so can't complain too much.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,109 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    It's not really a north/south divide because the occlusion will pivot on a northeast/southwest axis. If you're in the East or on the coast your best chance is overnight Sunday/Monday.

    That applies to the rest of the country as well.

    If your locale does not have snow on Saturday night you could have plenty of snow on Sunday night.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,540 ✭✭✭WolfeEire
    Clare (430ft asl)


    The system is a shade further south on the 12z compared to this morning's run.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,194 ✭✭✭John.Icy


    GFS 12z, stuck to it's guns really. Slower to arrive which gives a tease that maybe it was trending south but it still reached a similar northern extent of the warmer air.

    If GFS gets this, we need likely an impossible shift south for most of the bottom half of the country to join in the main action, Connaught and Ulster the sweet spot for heavy snow. As it pivots and cold air recirculates, chances for some other places then. ECM 6z kept things colder further south. ICON 12z better than the GFS in terms of the northern boundary but by very little.

    I'd say those in the likes of Cork need a miracle at this stage for anything other than a brief short bout of preceding snow, before sitting put and waiting for the pivot. People are going to need the likes of the ARPEGE to pull this out of the bag.

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    EDIT: GEM also similar to GFS and ICON. Think we are approaching D-day, if ECM and UKMO are similar.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,547 ✭✭✭munsterlegend




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 144 ✭✭KingJeremy


    that would be spot on for me Yan Sno, thank you very much 🤩🤞



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 836 ✭✭✭bazlers


    Chocolate teapot im afraid but nice to see and Dream.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,830 ✭✭✭.Donegal.


    Some snow flurries today

    Gem is a touch further north

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,487 ✭✭✭DellyBelly


    I think we might be fortunate in Dublin and miss out on the worst of the snowfall…might get something but nothing like other areas are going to get



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,390 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    As someone who wants any excuse not to have to go to back to work on Monday, how's West Dublin shaping up?

    All eyes on Kursk. Slava Ukraini.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,288 ✭✭✭Dazler97


    I was right their is a weather advisory and a warning ⚠️ out i can see yellow and orange warnings prehaps even 2 or 3 red



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,243 ✭✭✭squarecircles




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,109 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    Appreciable snow on the ground (a few cms) is most probable Sunday evening/night in Eastern coastal counties. Could be an interesting journey to work on Monday.



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