Russia-Ukraine War (continuing)

yeah, and if they thought that the Chechens and Afghans were bad, they have a whole new experience awaiting them..so bad in fact, that they will cry for the Afghan or Chechen times back again!

Kurakhove stronghold has fallen following the capture of the industrial and power plant outside the residential area.

A disinterested Trump is better than an Trump interested in stopping the war.

I said it before, the next 4 years will be little different from his last presidency. There will be enough of a circus in Washington to keep Trump distracted and whatever promises Biden made will be kept.

Anyone check out nuclear war a scenario? It's currently on Spotify.

https://open.spotify.com/show/0V5ukw6aNNscj0KfZnrZ8o?si=lNH1a_oQSMyMlYXOJgCEYgI'm at the part where they describe the USA 1963 secret meeting on nuclear war against USSR as a planned genocide by the USA.

The two biggest nuclear powers duking it out in Ukraine. It seems like absolute madness.

Yep

Are you ruZZian or of ruZZian origin? You certainly have a bias towards them. Can't for the life of me understand why anybody not of ruZZian origin would big these c*nts up, like you constantly endeavour to do.

The 'we're all going to die thing' is apparently yet another Russian load of BS to strengthen their hand to act freely by scaring everyone who want's to stop them.

the analysts argued that the Soviets found it politically beneficial to trumpet concern about nuclear winter

No surprise the Russians were involved in the European anti-nuclear peace movement up to their eyebrows.

https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP85M00364R001001530019-5.pdf

The long nuclear winter won't happen. Scientists were very worried at the consequences of Saddam Hussein lighting hundreds of of oil well fires in Kuwait as that was expected to be catastrophic along the lines of acting like multiple nukes going off.

The burning oil wells in Kuwait, no doubt, created the world's largest oil field fire in history. The environmental implications of the oil fires generated tremendous media and scientific interest. - Pre-war predictions of the environmental impact of Kuwait oil fires were extremely gloomy. It was suspected that a large quantity of soot particles would be produced by the fires that will remain suspended in the stratosphere for several weeks and eventually moved up to the troposphere, thus enhancing the greenhouse effect. Atmospheric warming and modification of the earth's radiation balance could change the global climate, weakening the Indian monsoon, and adversely affecting other climatological sensitive regions of the world. 

The Iraqi's lit 780 or so oil fires and the result was next to nothing compared to earlier concerns of some. Turns out neither the oil fires or nukes will loft stuff high enough to have disastrous impact envisaged by some. Carl Sagan's famous nuclear winter prediction required the material lofted to stay up for years and almost never come down, based on no science. There is no mechanism for that to happen.

So an all out nuclear war would be utterly terrible, but it won't cause a nuclear winter that will snuff out life on Earth and humankind.

The Chernobyl exclusion zone, ironically in Ukraine, is proof that the downsides of radiological contamination have been grossly exaggerated. No scientists ever predicted the place would turn into the most biologically thriving habitat in Europe. It turns out an irradiated biosphere has far less effect than a few greedy and meddlesome humans.

Just a guess, but I think the next glacial period will be an order of magnitude worse for humanity than setting all the nukes off.

The 2 biggest nuclear powers duking it out ?

You mean probably the world's biggest nuclear powers , trying to swing it's weight around with Ukraine ,a 4 th or 5 th tier military.. non nuclear..

and failing miserably..

It's a complete shame that NATO didn't institute an air war - while warning Russia that any miiitary fire coming from Russia towards Ukraine would be a target ..

A hard line and an unlimited NATO air war , and the war would have been over 2 years ago .. 100s of thousands of Ukrainian military and civilian casualties, would have been spared …

YouTube is banned in Russia now. Putin gave a cock and bull story about YouTube not maintaining its ‘ equipment’ in Russia . Showing how utterly clueless he is about all things tech. How Russians eat and swallow this **** is shocking. I suppose it’s easy to spout absolute bullshit and look in command when you have a private security detail of 450,000 troops at your disposal. And fellas here think Putin is bona fide.

What does this vatnik nonsense have to do with Ukraine?

But let's bring it back to Ukraine.

Ukraine gave up nuclear weapons in the Budapest agreement.
An agreement Ukraine honoured.
An agreement Russia repeatedly violated.

Something you have never held Russia to account for.
Proof positive you have no real regard for steps to reduce nuclear weapons.
An act by Russia that clearly signals to other countries that without them they are vulnerable to Russian aggression.

Demonstrates the absolute hypocrisy of the 'concerns' expressed here about nuclear weapons.