Manchester United Thread 25/26 - Teamtalk/Transfers/Gossip Mod Note in OP 26.09.24

Agree. I would have kept him on.

Even the choice of substitute that day was a bit odd. He brings on Garnacho to replace Ugarte?

No, likely the reverse. Presuming the club has to borrow to build it (cant see the Glazers contributing anything to it) it would be another debt that needs to be serviced and paid before transfers.

This is how I feel on it too. I don’t think Ratcliffe has much patience and will make a decision whether it’s right or wrong. He’s sacked a fair few already at Nice since buying them in 2019.

If the result is less money then why do it? If you're waiting 20 years to start seeing the benefit?

1. I'd assume much higher match day revenue
2. Stadium naming rights, would add to that as well.

So we don't know the terms, or the results as if yet.

Could be the sponsorship, plus increased stadium revenues minus repayments is greater than the current match day revenues.

Plus you'd have psr as a more limiting factor in spending - so stadium financing gets reduced in psr write offs but the revenues generated being higher would give the greater benefit.

If we return to making Europe we'd be limited to 70% (is it going to 60%?) of revenues.

So is 70% of the higher revenues better than the current situation even with repayments?

The reports say it was ashworth. If yiu believe Southgate was pushed at all then ashworth was the source, and even then he was only really discussed in the summer.

Frank was the guy ashworth preferred, apparently.

Not when he got sacked no.

I don't think Southgate was a credible name at any point, but ashworth was apparently the guy who mentioned him (but didn't push him)

Berrada abd wilcox decided on amorim and pushed him.

Unless ineos sack them, I don't see Jim or Brailsford deciding on the manager.

Sir Jim was a vocal Brexit supporter so he must be dumb as rocks.

2025 predictions:

-Will be stuffed by Liverpool by record score.

-Amorim will quit

-Southgate will take over to keep us in premier league

Portuguese league is a lot like Scottish League, literally impossible to fail as a manager if you're at one of the top 3 clubs.

Same as Gerrard at Rangers, or Rodgers at Celtic, Amorim is like this , and just like Gerrard and Rodgers, he's learning that the PL is a very different ball game. He went from an impossible to fail scenario, to an impossible to win scenario in PL, if your team is not functioning at 100% in all areas of the pitch.

Roy Hodgson could move to Benfica in ten years and win a league title, it's impossible not to.

Right now Amorim is looking like Gerrard, out of his depth .

Sure, in the long run a new stadium with greater capacity and presumably more revenue from shops etc will pay off. No disagreement there. But that's the long run. You can't get increased revenues until its built. There will be 2-3 year gap to fund before revenues improve. Building could actually hurt match day revenue in the short term.

Look at Arsenal and the Emirates. Just building the stadium (after planning and all that) took well over two years and while the revenues have paid out in the long run, in the years after building it the debt involved came first before transfers. Wenger himself said it [2006 to 2014] was the worst period of his professional life as manager.

“We had restricted finances, we had to pay back a huge amount of money and we had to sell our best players.

“We had to stay in the top, to stay in the Champions League and at least to make 54,000 people [attend]. There are many debates when you start building a stadium, how big can it be? It’s quite simple.

“At the time it was £4,000 a seat. You multiply that by 60,000 it’s £240million. Plus we had to buy the soil, all the businesses we had to buy out. It went to over £420m.

“We had to pay a huge amount of money back every year. That’s why we had to stay in the Champions League.”

United is financially bigger than Arsenal, but the stadium cost they had was a fifth of what's being quoted to United now. The next few years, a new stadium is going to be a constraint on the club trying to spend big money on players at the same time. Sure INEOS might have a trick or two up their sleeves, but it's still servicing a loan of 2 billion before you spend on player wages and transfers.

Sporting have been a shambles since he left, they sacked his replacement already.