Ireland's Refugee Policy cont. Please read OP before posting

I’m not conflating the two at all, neither was the Judge. The comparison in circumstances however, is there - the people in asylum accommodation have not bypassed anything, they are there precisely because they have taken the legal route of applying for, and being granted asylum - they are prevailing on the humanity of the people of Ireland.

This guy, who had expressed a desire to emigrate to Canada, was hoping to avoid a conviction, which would prevent him from going to Canada, with the irony of course being that he sought to prevent other people from making a better life for themselves in another country in the same way as he was hoping to do.

Irelands refugee policy has imported lots of trouble makers we cant do anything about people born here who act in a wild manner.You seem not to like Irish people ?

See, simple and would address all of the current issues.

It's simple to write, obviously. However it's not remotely simple to implement in reality, which is why Ireland is in the position it's in where even this -

• Come here with a verifiable claim of real threat to your life or safety from a country known to persecute people fitting your circumstances - welcome! However, that welcome comes with the condition that you respect our laws, culture and people, and understanding that our generosity is not infinite, is at our discretion and may change over time, and you will be expected to return home when we deem it safe for you to do so, or that you apply to remain through our existing visa system and are able to support yourself if successful.

It's all 'we' this, and 'our' that, yet the people who were trying to get themselves into positions where they could implement even one of your… 'policies?', have been roundly rejected by the Irish electorate. That's only the first step, and they couldn't even do that much. What, I would love to know, gives you the confidence to imagine they would so easily be able to introduce legislation which would have the effect of writing what you want into Irish law when they can't even get themselves elected to a position where there's a snowballs chance in hell even if they were elected, that they would be able to do so?

All I see from the pro immigration posters is can't do this, can't do that, that's impossible, blah blah blah. The fact is, inaction and lack of leadership has lead to decades old asylum laws being taken advantage of.

We are an island nation, on the periphery of NW Europe, there is no excuse for us to have the level of fake asylum seekers we do. We are being taken for fools, and our good nature is being taken advantage of.

We can't contuine on the current path of ever increasing immigration growth, and something needs to change drastically before we pass the point of irreversible damage to society.

You’re not seriously suggesting there are no crimes committed by anyone except ‘our own’ are you?

This has been covered time and time again on this thread so I’ll summarise

The election does not mean that Irish people are happy with how immigration is handled. By the same logic that means Irish people are happy with health and housing too

The government deliberately appeared to take a strong stance on immigration in the run up to the election. Many of us predicted that here and we knew that strong stances post election would be forgotten about. And that this would be used as proof that Irish people think the government are doing a great job

The recent shift to the right across Europe will happen here too eventually. We are usually behind in such matters and the countries that have shifted to the right are further down this path than we are

I don't like Irish people who use refugees as a thin excuse. Your point was about refugees making the country unsafe. My point was if you actually cared about safety you would propose tougher laws against Irish youths who make the city far more unsafe on a daily basis then refugees do. But you clearly have no interest

Go ahead and hitch your wagon to Ken. See where that leads you.

AS in port of arrival: "I wish to claim asylum".

Officer: "Okay, where are you from?"

AS answers Albania, Georgia, USA, South Africa, Nigeria, or any of the long list of safe countries.

Officer: "okay, thanks".

Officer notes on forms that claim is denied.

AS is taken to a detention centre within the grounds of the same port of arrival.

Photos and fingerprints taken, full biometric checks taken.

Given food and bed.

The following day, or within a week, taken on board an aircraft, flown back to Albania, Georgia, USA, South Africa, Nigeria.

(whether or not those countries co-operate)

If they don't co-operate, AS is left on apron of foreign airport.