Cocaine Destroying Rural Ireland

"It is legal in the Netherlands for over 40 years and the country is not any worse."

How do you know that? How do you estimate the psychic damage? I lived in the Netherlands and engaged with many dope smokers. It is bad bad stuff. Besides, it is well know that dope can precipitate psychosis in some people. Sub psychotic damage must be even more prevalent.

How can you say 'not any worse' and then go on to say-

"There simply will be people who will go for it legal or illegal they do not care and while it is being presented that mental problems can lead to drug use it also works the other way and I would even say more so. Heavy drug use will inevitably lead to mental problems. It is pretty much connected."

It doesn't work anywhere. Drugs are psychically destructive. Dope turns people into zombies. I've seen enough to know what I'm talking about.

@Tomaldo

As I said, people don't take drugs because they believe they're good for their health

There's a lot of room for grey area, here. Obviously, if you take the definition of 'drug' in the American sense, then you include every pharmaceutical, the vast majority of which are taken for health benefits, sometimes life-saving ones.

Going beyond that semantic point, even those substances which are often classed as narcotic also have medically-beneficial applications in instances that are prescribed and supervised, i.e. even something as hard as heroin is used for patients with breakthrough pain (known as diamorphine in clinical settings).

Even going beyond that , an occasional glass of red wine taken with a meal is often considered to be on the beneficial side of things. Two bottles of wine, not so much…

As with many of these things, the problem comes in with overuse and abuse, a likelihood which I would say increases with the more intense highs.

Well dope and alcohol are very different drugs. But where does your logic end? If one drug can justify another why not go as far as cocaine, heroin, fentanyl…what else is there? Why argue that because there is one danger there should be two? And if there are two why not three…etc.

I’m not a user of cocaine and never was- but clearly “wars on drugs” just don’t work - we’ve seen them fail all too often - some form of legalisation or approved restricted use/distribution method probably needs to happen.
The more people who take it the greater incentive for criminals - it’s not going to go away of its own accord

It should be noted, there have been no documented deaths attributed to use of marijuana, like an overdose etc.

Bulowski was heavily influenced by alcohol, his writings are massively influenced by use of it, and I believe he referred to alcohol as his muse.

He probably isn’t the best person to use for your case against marijuana.

For the most part I have not talked about death or physical harm*. I am talking about psychic injury and even psychosis. As for Bukowski, he is making an observation - zombification from dope - that you can observe easily in regular dope smokers. "Heyyy man." "All circulation and spirit cut off."

*Cocaine burrows holes in the brain.

Cocaine does not burrow in the brain, it can be long lasting as it crosses the brain barrier but it doesn’t burrow, at all. Unless you are using “burrow” to emphasise its impact.

Bukowski is allowed to make an observation, but again it’s not exactly from the best position, or with any supporting evidence.

“Zombification” from dope (I’ll assume you mean marijuana here, and not heroin) is temporary, and again (if you’re referencing marijuana) doesn’t do nearly as much harm as alcohol, tobaccco or other drugs like cocaine or opioids.

Seems like you are just using cultural references as evidence.