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BusConnects Dublin - Bus Network Changes Discussion

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,108 ✭✭✭Burt Renaults


    Part of their contract now, so they don't have any choice.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,693 ✭✭✭mikeybhoy


    Cool good to see the NTA taking an actual interest in how bus services are operated for a change. Anyone have a link to the new contract GAI are under?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,105 ✭✭✭dublinman1990


    Are they any suitable sites for GAI to take up in the Bray area since they won this new tender?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,777 ✭✭✭john boye


    Realistically, is Summerhill much further away from Templeogue than Ringsend?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,597 ✭✭✭VG31


    Looking at Bustimes this is happening a lot. Buses are often stopped on the Ballyboggan Road for 10-20 minutes waiting for a driver. The late afternoon seems to be the worse time. This of course has a knock-on effect in terms of cancellations also. The Ballyboggan Road seems like a very strange place to change drivers. I would have thought Heuston would be a much better place.

    Passenger number do seem to be very low but it's not a waste of money. Passenger numbers will remain low with such poor reliability however.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,277 ✭✭✭Daith


    Yeah, more than a few times I've had to wait on Ballyboggan road for a relief driver for the N2. It's a bit odd.

    I used it this morning to get from Broombridge to Smithfield and I certainly wasn't complaining about the lack of people on it. Was very enjoyable.

    Having saying that.…I regularly get the 40E at Broombridge which is a far more frustrating experience



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,597 ✭✭✭VG31


    The 16:10 to Clontarf (11903) is running 26 minutes late after waiting on the Ballyboggan Road for 13 minutes. The 16:40 to Clontarf (11562) was at the stop since 17:19 and only just left.

    There are certainly other unreliable routes. The 83 also isn't great at the moment, but that's probably more due to the terrible traffic recently.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,213 ✭✭✭trellheim


    presumably the driver gets the LUAS and walks down to change



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,277 ✭✭✭Daith


    Why not just change at Broombridge though? It feels more like they're using the Finglas Road/N2

    Broombridge could do with a redesign. Private cars can fill it up quite quickly but there should be space there. Or allow Dublin Bus drivers use the Luas car park there



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,039 ✭✭✭✭LXFlyer


    The drivers use a staff car to get to/from Ballyboggan Road and presumably either go to/from the depot or a more local staff break facility.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,277 ✭✭✭Daith


    Fair enough, I wouldn't want to be relying on public transport to get around either :)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,039 ✭✭✭✭LXFlyer


    Templeogue / Rathfarnham CBC now approved by ABP.

    https://www.pleanala.ie/en-ie/case/316272

    10 /12 CBC planning applications approved now.

    Post edited by LXFlyer on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,597 ✭✭✭p_haugh


    Inspectors report, orders & direction have now been made available by the looks of it.

    Looking at the conditions, there isn't anything out of the ordinary really. These were the only ones that stood out to me really:

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,039 ✭✭✭✭LXFlyer


    I’ll be very surprised if there aren’t multiple judicial reviews on this one, what with the CPO activity between Rathgar and Terenure, and going towards Rathfarnham, and also the multiple bus gates.

    This scheme probably also has the greatest impact on private car traffic of them all.

    It’ll be controversial, but one cannot make an omelette without breaking eggs.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,334 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie


    How long of a window is there to lodge a JR or is there a time limit?
    Also do we know if a JR is lodged, will it be fast tracked through the new planning courts- or are they up and running?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭BlueSkyDreams


    What kind of CPO around Terenure and Rathgar is expected?

    Gardens taken to widen the roads, I assume?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69 ✭✭hfjm20


    Any word on Phase 6a?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,776 ✭✭✭✭L1011




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,277 ✭✭✭Daith


    I forgot about the CPO on gardens. This will drag



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,334 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie


    ok so JR has to be lodged by week ending Feb 17th (not including time off for Xmas)



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1 User7282932


    Came across this on another forum earlier,phase 6A is expected to be 26th January 2025 and F and D spines will be rolled out later on in 2025.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,277 ✭✭✭Daith


    At least Northside, the F spines won't really change much. Really relying on having enough bus drivers to make the F2/F3/40 split worthwhile.

    Potentially making it worse for people who got the 140 and went through Phisboro ,and now will experience the joys of the Whitworth Road.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,201 ✭✭✭✭cgcsb


    Bonkers that the finglas bus corridor didn't include a bus gate in the middle of Whitworth road. A serious omission, and of course they made a dogs dinner of the main strip of phibsboro which should have been a bus gate instead of a road widening into the footpath.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,213 ✭✭✭trellheim


    Someone said to me the electric single deckers cant make the turns/clearance needed for the O route to work - anyone know if theres any truth in this ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,039 ✭✭✭✭LXFlyer


    I very much doubt it, given they were operating the trial runs multiple times a day at, or near to, the scheduled times per bustimes.org.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,201 ✭✭✭✭cgcsb


    Is it likely at this stage that the O will be launched at same time as E? That'd remove some opposition, then they just need to extend the 19 to the south side, a simple enough ask.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,213 ✭✭✭trellheim


    yes,except the bits that they can't do yet ! which is of course the important bits - top of Steevens lane and left turn over Sean Heuston which I do seem to recall a long time ago people were saying there were clearance issues and I was wondering if there was anything in the rumours.

    ( can't launch the O at the same time as the E unless you delay the E till the O infrastructure is done and there is no sign of the O infra whatsoever i.e. the LUAS and general traffic signalling changes need to allow buses across sean heuston and up and down Steevens lane ) .



  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,969 Mod ✭✭✭✭CatInABox


    Yes, there's at least one area that they can't trial the O bus because infrastructure changes are needed. That's not something new, they designed the testing around it.

    It's not a huge project either, as far as I know it's just putting a set of lights up and allowing for a turn.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,201 ✭✭✭✭cgcsb


    Yet it's still not done, another one of those simple solutions that just never seems to happen



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,863 ✭✭✭AngryLips


    Wasn't the W6 route also needing only a simple solution yet somehow that took months …despite the roll-out being massively delayed by staff shortages



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