The End of Assad? Syrian Rebels enter the outskirts of Aleppo for the first time since 2016

The UN imposed the creation of a Jewish state on the native Arab population living there. 

The UN voted for resolution 181 (II). They didn't impose anything. They sought to solve the issue of the ethnic conflict that was ongoing in the region for 30 years prior. They came up with a plan to partition the area. One side accepted it, the other did not. The other side lost multiple wars, and they still complain about how hard done they were.

You don't hear the Germans bitching and moaning today about all the land they had to give over to modern-day Poland, do you? They accepted their loss and went about their business in building a new liberal modern democratic society. If only the Palestinian and Arab leadership were not so hell-bent in driving the Jews back into the sea. Using the average Palestians as pawns, grooming them for violence, while billions flowed into their bank balance, so their wives could have a nice time shopping in Geneva or Paris.

Many many wars have happened in the world over the past 50-100 years. Yet only this issue is the one, that still gets brought up in the modern-day lexicon by the chattering classes. Banging on about 1948 will get you nowhere. The past is in the past. Its time to face up to the fact that the Palestinians lost and were played by the wider Arab world for their own ends. None of that is the fault of the Israelis. You dont blame the winning team, if the other team keeps losing by continuously scoring own-goals.

A secular democratic liberal Arab state is like a chocolate teapot. It does not exist.

There is a reason why 1948 happened. If someone, anyone can explain to me a workable alternative to partitioning the southern levant, I am all ears.

Partitioning has been used the world over to solve ethnic conflicts. See India/Pakistan, North Sudan/South Sudan, Yugoslavia, never mind ourselves in Ireland.

Northern Ireland is a legally recognised entity but Israel is not?? Do you not know anything about the history of Northern Ireland, for example the Border Commission? NI was no less "imposed" on Ireland than Israel was - the difference is that the Irish accepted it, albeit at the cost of a civil war. If the IRA had won that instead of the Free State side, Ireland might well be a basket case now too. At some point, going on fighting can become counterproductive.

I'd say that Palestine passed that point long ago. And that people who are inciting Hamas or other groups to keep on fighting are not interested in the good of Palestinians, just in some sort of ideological grand gesture. The one they wish perhaps that Ireland had made instead of signing the treatly. And it's one that they will never pay a price for either, unlike Palestinian children.

That's the level of hatred that Israel is up against. Syrians were quite prepared to make chemical weapons for use against Israel, but were shocked when the regime turned the weapons against its own people.

Israel is used by the regional dictators as the bogey man. A way to keep its people in check. I wonder what makes Israel 'special'? Is it the fact that they are Jewish? Hmmm, couldnt be!

The Israeli's don't care much for public opinion or optics at the best of times. They see threats or even the appearance of threat and where possible they hit them. Oct 7 marked a much more serious "gloves off" phase for them in the entire decades-long conflict.

So with Syria for example they saw that Syrian military assets could potentially fall into the wrong hands (or worse hands), so they destroyed them. If you were an Israeli, that's an absolute no-brainer.

Yes there's a lot of history, etc behind this - but there's a grim practical side to it too. If for example Jordan started to collapse and there was even the merest hint Jordanian military assets could fall into the hands of e.g. Hamas (or any enemy) they wouldn't hesitate in the slightest to destroy it all. Even though Jordan is an ally at the moment.

They don't care, they cannot afford to take the risk.

This is their mentality. Only it's even more extreme now. Security is everything and (since Oct 7th) **** anyone and everyone who even thinks about trying something.

I don't want to drift off into the Israel thing, only mention their approach in relation to the situation in Syria. You can bet your ass they will be watching it closely, and if any sort of serious threat starts to grow there I wouldn't be surprised to see them hit it hard. It's horrendous and it's tragic, a lot of innocent people are getting caught in between but I suspect they'll be in this full on smite mode for the foreseeable future - which, as mentioned, will include Syria.

no, we did a deal because the traitor michael collins and co signed it against the wishes of dev 

More unhinged stuff from you.

As has been pointed out you to several times, the WW1 Jewish population of Palestine was 10%. I

And in the 1940's it was approx 40%..

I saw you banging on about the right to self-determination, how is it that an area that was over 80% Arab was never given a right to self-determination for some 30 years?

Ask the British and French that, and before them ask the Turks, as they ruled the area for the guts of 400 years… Why didn't the Turks give them self determination?

How is it the Catholics got nothing whilst the Zionists got an entire state?

The Catholics in Ireland did get something, they got the Free State.

The Zionists controlled less than 10% of the land in Palestine when Israel was created with over 60% of the land.

Those figures are questionable to say the least.

The thread has finally descended into total farce....

Reminds me of the old adage about trying to reach a pig to sing...

Isn’t it crazy that one of Israel’s biggest critics is Turkey, talking about illegal occupation while they illegally occupy half of Cyprus since the seventies, have a ‘buffer’ zone into Syria and backed a Palestinian former Islamist terrorist to cease control of the country and are currently attacking and bombing the Kurds in Syria. Are we going to get protests about this?

They are not being let on to the departing planes…..Putin wants to try and keep as much a military presence there as he possibly can….he's still hoping that he can retain Tartous port and the airbase at Latakia. He doedoesn't give a damn about what happens Russian soldiers.

This my final post on this as the thread is about Syria, not Mandatory Palestine.

1. The Jewish Population in Mandatory Palestine was never above a third of the population. 40% is an exaggeration on your behalf.
2. The British would not grant self-determination due to the Balfour Declaration and the promise of a Jewish State. For the most part, the Arab's did not seek self-rule under the Ottomans. Like most of Europe, Nationalism only took hold in the late 19th century. There was a definite Arab independence movement by the time of WW1 which was why the Arabs sided with the British as they had promised an Arab state if the Ottoman empire fell.
3. I was clearly referring to the Catholics in NI who had no rights to secede from NI even though they had the same minority percentage as the Jewish population in Palestine. Tyrone and Fermanagh had Catholic majorities and could easily have rejoined with the Free State. Take out Antrim and Down and there was small Catholic majority in the other 4 Counties. That's the thing with partition, it depends where you draw the lines. Some minorities apparently don't get choices, other do.
4. The figures on Jewish land ownership are not dubious. I was going on memory with the 10%, but it was actually lower than that at about 5-6%. The only district of Palestine that had a majority Jewish population was Haifa. Jerusalem and Jaffa were pretty mixed, but everywhere else was largely Arab Muslim.

The fact of the matter is that nowhere else in the World has something happened like that which happened in Palestine, with a group of people who didn't even live there, being promised a state whilst the native population were ignored and it happened within 30 years. N

Like I have said before, the only group that looked into the future of the region post WW1 were ironically the Americans(King-Crane Commission), and their investigations rejected the idea of a Jewish state in the region and predicted any attempt to create one would lead to inevitable violence and bloodshed. Sadly that report was ignored for British/ French self- interests(Sykes-Picot) and again by the UN in 1947, and the story of Israel/Palestine is exactly as predicted from 100 years ago.

Youtuber Bald and Bankrupt just posted a video of himself nosing around inside the very newly post-Assad Syria.

Yes, although to be fair, I'm not sure if you could have done a travel video in Syria at that time without it being government approved. Assad was, if nothing else, a stickler about control…