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Beef price tracker 2

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,454 ✭✭✭Grueller


    I'll second that, I have a few suckler cull cows here fattening on dairy nuts. The nuts are left in the bin after drying off and they will do fine.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,177 ✭✭✭148multi


    I see farmers getting animated over the reduction in suckler numbers, but I also remember before sucklers were promoted by the EU, and why they were promoted. Single suckling was promoted because there was a beef mountain, it was a great idea to have grassland resources locked in a cycle to keep an adult animal to produce a weanling, basically tying up one beef animal out of the production cycle for 10 years. There was calf to beef farmers making a good living with the use of hormones.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,126 ✭✭✭limo_100


    Have 7 of them so what to maximise there's sales for next year as I will have less calves next year with these empty 😅 The hi maize mix is that Keirnans ration have you used it? I hear loads of people saying its as good as it gets for a finishing ration



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,128 ✭✭✭kk.man


    I heard that about Kiernan ration, asking at the ploughing but rep wasn't great so I skipped it. The bull ration is the dogs pyjamas but it's very expensive.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,126 ✭✭✭limo_100


    What's the bull ration is it the buffalo beef nut? That's the suppose to be the nut version of there hi maize mix but I think its slightly behind (not by much) it due to having to get it to bind in nut form. Never fed either of them but I think I will try the ration will pick up a tonne when I get a chance during the xmas.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,177 ✭✭✭148multi


    Have used keirnan's buffalo beef nut and happy with it, switch suppliers some times as buying through a group. But personally think a straight barley/soya mix is best value and easy handled if not feeding ad-lib.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,128 ✭✭✭kk.man


    I think that's what it's called. I was making enquiries at their tent and the price he gave me was very expensive. I lost interest after that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,128 ✭✭✭kk.man


    Any quotes for the coming week?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 104 ✭✭nearlybreak


    6 euro flat for continentals and whites heads 6.20 for Angus bullocks more to be got for big numbers



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10 Goodman2


    6.10 continental heifers 6.20 Angus heifers flat price



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,563 ✭✭✭weatherbyfoxer


    Have a pen of store aa and he bullock from 425kg-470kg that were bought for grazing next summer to kill early August.With the good price would it be better to feed them 5kg per day of meal and really good silage for 90 days and kill at the end of March..have facilities to do both options..what's peoples thoughts?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,132 ✭✭✭mr.stonewall


    The Angus top up Angus bonus usually begins in April until June. An option maybe to kill late may early June off grass. Risk of blue tongue will increase from April may onwards



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 683 ✭✭✭Fine Day


    I am feeding similar stock about 3 kgs of finisher and good silage for the last 7 weeks or so and they are really showing it now. I will start moving the best of them before Feb I'd say.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,128 ✭✭✭kk.man


    I'm feeding 430kgs (at housing time) friesan, aa and lim bullocks which I intend to kill next September. As the saying goes 'never look a good horse in the mouth'. I was looking into a particular mart last week there wasn't one 2022 born beast in the ring. The cattle simply won't be there next year. Now replace my shed cattle will be an issue but I'll cross that bridge when it comes to it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,619 ✭✭✭morphy87


    I haven’t heard of any prices but there’s a serious demand for stock, factory’s meant to be opening next Friday, there’s very little in the chills, I know a man that’s over sales in a factory and he said that they can’t keep the meat out



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 185 ✭✭Aly Daly


    I summer cattle here & I suppose would be classed as a hobby farmer,I buy store bullocks 500kg mark feb/march depending on weather & factory in October,I buy mainly british friesans & don't mind these going over 30 months to grow,I like simmentals but they can be very expensive first day,very dry top quality land which is limed,fert & topped,what are peoples thoughts I want to stay with bullock store to finish,I realise the system is not ideal but I have business commitments & can not winter cattle, I do however have good straw bedding/silage facilities if the weather turned shocking & they had to be housed in spring for a few weeks.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,128 ✭✭✭kk.man


    You are worried this is a pyramid scheme.As a big finisher said to me once when asking a simular question, you must stick to what suits you best and hope. The reason he gave was if you change your trading pattern it could have tax implications for you the year after.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 185 ✭✭Aly Daly


    Yes I suppose I was asking a similar question, anyway thank you for the insight.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,385 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    I uses to winter finish before ( I still finish a few but it only dribs and drabs lefft over from grazing system) I found two issues having a meal bill left after buying replacements. I would be reluctant to go back to winter finishing. I have 7 in the shed to hang end of January. I have the bones of 80-90 to hang next year, the most expensive is a Ch heifer that was 380 kgs costing 840 euro bought last August , the cheapest were a bunch of Friesuan rags 180kg costing 220 euro I think bought December last year.

    If things hold the way they are I might make a few bob. With the way the market it will get tough buying cattle fit to kill later in the year.

    Have bought 20 in no 7-11 month old cattle over the last 6 weeks

    4 Frx Hfr 200kgs @ 220 euro

    2 HE hfr 150kgs@ 300 euro

    2 Sax her 220kgs @ 500 euro

    10 Fr/Frx bulls 190 kgs @300 euro

    1 CH bull 220 kgs @ 720 euro

    2 PI heifers 280 kgs @620 euro

    You will make money if you feed them, replacing them will be the issue. Will you try to buy something to finish in 2025 or in qinter/summer 2026.

    I be trying to buy on opportunity, I would look at 8-14 months old cattle that will finish tge end of the year as well as normal stores. Watch the cow sales as well. There is often slips of heufers or young cows not incalf there

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 185 ✭✭Aly Daly


    I will bear in mind the younger earlier finishing cattle as I have always bought more forward 20mth + stores,I would be more inclined to buy bullocks than heifers it's just that I am used to them.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,385 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    Heifers are easier finished as well they eat less. I have 31 heifers in a double pen about 400kgs average approx they are eating two bales every three days with mins& it's they are costing about 75c/ day to winter. They are in about 30 days on average. I say there winter on average will be 100 days.

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,128 ✭✭✭kk.man


    Bass you really have went down in the purchase weights. I always say it's the best insurance of all the systems, you rarely lose even when it's a falling market. The biggest disadvantage is the length of time on farm and the wait for your money.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,560 ✭✭✭DBK1


    I’m finding cattle are eating very little silage this winter too, due to the mild weather I assume but we won’t complain!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,563 ✭✭✭weatherbyfoxer


    It's the big downfall of stocking your whole farm out of a sales ring.if you have a certain amount to spend and need stock your forced to drop weight or quantity.Its one aspect where sucklers or calf to beef win



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,619 ✭✭✭morphy87


    I’m finding the exact same myself, I thought that i would be very tight on silage, I reckon I’ll have a nice bit left over now



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 118 ✭✭lstmd


    Our silage is a lot drier this year and not going through it as quick either.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,619 ✭✭✭morphy87




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,385 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    Length if time is a fallacy. It's a 6-9 month hit. The money starts coming in then often it's a balance. There is a few advantages is it better to hang 80@ 600 net margin or 100 @ 400 net margin. Young light cattle are very easy to carry over the winter, not a lot of money tied up in stock and it's easier to put in young than older cattle and numbers are smaller.

    IIt not about spend totally. By buying younger lighter cattle you have access to a larger selection stock, less competition around the ring, a lot of lads are trying to twist these cattle again while I am carrying to slaughter. Shed capacity is tight as well and it relatively easy to feed lighter stock outside for a while.

    Suckler to beef never beats anything. In a discussion group and it really visible to see the lads starting to slip away from sucklers. While a lot of these might not have been into the technical side of breeding most are decent run of the mill suckler farmers, most dipped there toe into buying a few AA or HE calves at the start and then finished a few. Now they are trialing a few Friesians. One lads is buying a few Friesian heifers like myself.

    Nothing wong with calf to beef it beats the socks off sucklers except its time consuming to rear calves. May have to go back to it again, however someone has to finish the rags left around the place I suppose so I will take on the responsibility

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users Posts: 298 ✭✭WoozieWu


    now the length of time you keep an animal is a fallacy

    someone has been into the christmas whiskey



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,702 ✭✭✭memorystick


    Those light cattle seem very cheap. I got rode I think. I bought 21 AAx fr/jr reared calves for €410 in September. All heifers. They were poorly done have nearly doubled in size since then. If I get them to 250-260 carcass next fall I’d be doing well.



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