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Wallace and Daly - Please Read Mod Warning on OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 460 ✭✭Rooks


    "It was 5000 people who didn't think what he does was so bad."

    Ditto the Wallace and Daly supporters. Just read the posts in this thread.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 616 ✭✭✭DayInTheBog




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,586 ✭✭✭Dick phelan


    They pretend to be anti war but really they are just anti the West. A common thing amongst the far left.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,657 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    Daly I actually used have a lot of time for. However a few years back she started pushing what amounted to HPV vaccine conspiracy theories which had no factual basis. Then she and Mick started pushing propaganda for both Russia and China, even frequently showing up on their news networks.

    And their credibility flew out the window out the window when they started pushing what amounted to justifications for the invasion of Ukraine, arguing that a nation who were subjected to genocide did not deserve military aid. You can say they exposed evil people but they're also acting as a propagandists for some of the most evil people around.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,311 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Like I said, often claimed, never substantiated.

    I'm partial to your abracadabra,

    I'm raptured by the joy of it all.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,311 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    He's a daycent fella who stole the pension contributions of his workers and defrauded the taxpayer. But apart from that, and the dodgy Russian and Chinese stuff, he's grand altogether

    Laughable that you don't think actual theft tells us about the character of a person.

    His political career isn't important now - he dodged his debts, he got the Irish taxpayer to give him 100k for a few years, then he moved on to the more lucrative EU parliament. Maybe he'll ask his brother to sell him that vinyard back for a euro?

    I'm partial to your abracadabra,

    I'm raptured by the joy of it all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,311 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    "rotten corruption" Isn't it funny how he turned out.

    I'm partial to your abracadabra,

    I'm raptured by the joy of it all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,966 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    Hilarious people trying to excuse Wallace "he's a decent fella and he only stole from his employees pensions....."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,556 ✭✭✭OscarMIlde


    Yep, people bring up him highlighting Garda corruption as one of the good things he did.

    He deliberately stole from people who worked for him. He probably personally knew most of these people. What is more corrupt than that? Taking some kind of moral high ground on other issues when you personally are crooked as f*ck is just evidence that he's a narcissistic hypocrite.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,411 ✭✭✭j62


    If one is far out on the far left then the gardai/police are the bad guys who need to be defunded

    And thieves (and last few weeks in US a murderer as we seen) are the good guy anti hero’s



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,469 ✭✭✭blackwhite


    Daly had an absolute car crash of an interview on RTE Radio this evening.

    The Houthis of Yemen are a great bunch of lads aparantly (just don’t mention their human rights abuses, their use of child soldiers, suppression of women’s rights, use of rape as a weapon, etc, etc)


    Not an anti-Semitic bone in their bodies despite having “curse be upon the Jews” as part of their official slogan and plastered all over the walls of the conference she is speaking at.

    She also managed to claim that Houthi attacks on European commercial shipping is absolutely justified, and spend a good 5 minutes trying to justify the Oct 7th attacks.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,879 ✭✭✭Jack Daw


    Both of them are absolute scum.

    You want to criticize Israel that's perfectly fair but deciding to be buddies with the Houthis as part of it is despicable. TBH if they ever do come back to Ireland they should be arrested as soon as they get off the plane.I'm sure their buddying up with the Houthis could be considered an offence under anti terrorism laws.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,154 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 138 ✭✭Lucien_Sarti


    Ansar-Allah are shutting down the Red Sea to the sub-human barbarians who are enabling & carrying out genocide in Gaza and the West Bank in plain sight of the entire world.

    Therefore, Wallace & Daly are supporting the civilised party in this dystopian US/Euro enforced hellscape crime scene.
    If people support this US genocide and think W & D are mistaken then please explain why.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,162 ✭✭✭fatbhoy


    A pair of appalling, misguided idiots. Islamists can't believe their luck having these two on their side.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,966 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    Awww what a sad little strawman you've created



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,793 ✭✭✭threeball


    Wallace and Vomit don't know which way to turn now that Russia and the US are on the same team. I guess the main bad guy left is the EU.

    They both scrambling for relevance now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,311 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Can't figure out why RTE were giving her a platform for that nonsense?

    I can't imagine she got called out on it either.

    I'm partial to your abracadabra,

    I'm raptured by the joy of it all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,469 ✭✭✭blackwhite


    To be fair - Sarah McInerney fairly hammered her on it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 138 ✭✭Lucien_Sarti


    Nonsense? Hammered?
    I listened to the interview.
    Jesus Christ. Is this what ye lads consider an honest interview?
    Decrepit, racist, century old, 1880-1920 / Ed Bernays era colonial war propaganda? ?

    I am not getting into the ‘anti-Semitic’ hasbara mis-direction trap. That conscious, cynical time-wasting has been done to death on this (site) concerning virtually all past & present Palestinian & West Asian resistance groups (and is ofc a variation of the same misdirection model, labeling resistance as terrorism, for the last 400+ years of Western colonialism across the world).

    Let me rephrase the central piece of the interview as how I hear this war-mongering, savagery-normalising, boot-licking war propaganda:

    SM: “But Clare - If I walked into a conference and it had posters on the wall calling for an end to a Western Oligarch created settler-colony carrying out a century of permanent war and genocide to keep control of the (oil) resources of West Asia, I would turn around and walk out – so I would Clare; because my job is as a narrative manager who ultimately serves these Western oligarchs interests, Clare”.

    SM’s/RTE’s role, as always, is to
    present Western (genocidal) imperialism as normal, correct and right
    AND
    portray ANY resistance to that depraved criminality as a combination of terrorist/ brainwashed/ anti-Semitic/ sectarian/ mad/ crazy/ lefty/ loopy/ naive etc..

    Dark ages stuff.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,469 ✭✭✭blackwhite


    There's some incredible mental gymnastics to try and claim that

    "Curse be upon the Jews"

    is anything other than anti-semetic.

    It's amazing that some people, including the above poster evidently, need it pointed out to them that it's possible to recognise and despise the evil that is being perpetrated by the Israeli government without having to align yourself with equally reprehensible and evil groups.

    When you're reached the absolute low of trying to gloss over the actions of the Houthis - who have committed an awful lot of similar acts to what the IDF get up to in Gaza - then you've proven just how lacking in any morality you are.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_crimes_in_the_Yemeni_civil_war_(2014%E2%80%93present)#Houthis



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 138 ✭✭Lucien_Sarti


    Predictable faux-naif both sideism. Not interested.

    The real criminals, as always, are the Western (and Saudi/UAE) Oligarchs.
    I'm certain RTE & Irish media were frequently mocking and laughing at W & D over their support of Yemen in resisting the US/UK/Saudi war on Yemen during 2015-2022, 700k killed. That was defeated by long range missiles.
    Now the US is bombing Yemen directly - in order to protect their Gaza genocide.
    The evil could not be more stark.
    But what do we get instead - 'Wallace & Daly are silly' or 'its complicated'.
    Yeah Sure.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,966 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    Only the western and saudi oligarchs never the Russian ones….. sure they are all benevolent.

    Also its not complicated like you are claiming, which also which nobody said, the Gaza Geneocide is bad but Houthis killing people is also bad, however the key point is neither is good or should be supported for any reason like you, daly and wallace seem to be doing.

    Also your posts unsurprisingly read like a manic 1st year political science student who just discovered marx, fyi



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 138 ✭✭Lucien_Sarti


    All Oligarchs (including Russian & even Liechtensteiner ones) causing needless human suffering are criminals. Glad to clarify.

    To laugh at and mock W & D (which is what this thread is about), one has to operate this procedure (among a half dozen others):-

    Both siding imperialists with those who resist imperialism; this is one of the oldest, if not THE oldest ‘defensive’ canards of Western imperialism. That is what you and others are doing now with Ansar-Allah, this after hundreds of similar resistance movements over the last 400 years. However, it doesn’t work any more, the game is up.

    “If only the natives resisted our violent imperialism peacefully”.
    Such lala-land make-believe gibberish.

    Look, all I’m saying is own your beliefs – own your violent, chauvinist Western imperialism (it gives you a comfy life here, doesn’t it). Don’t pretend to be trying to find a middle ground.
    Just own it and laugh away at W & D.
    Everyone is happy that way.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,586 ✭✭✭Dick phelan


    Both should be in jail for treason. Clearly been taking money from enemy states.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,966 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    What nonsensical word salad is this? Are you arguing with yourself?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 138 ✭✭Lucien_Sarti


    If a pro-imperialist can’t cobble together a coherent response – feign confusion.
    The last, pathetic refuge of someone with no argument.
    I will not be responding to you again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,657 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    Wait till you hear their position on anything related to Chinese atrocities..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 138 ✭✭Lucien_Sarti


    Wait till I start on the collaboration between actually-existing knuckle dragging street-fighting SA and the Oirish intelligentsia!!!

    Ireland will not be at the centre of any global political changes but isn’t interesting all the same to see the parallels with intellectual corporate fascism allying with brain-dead SA street enforcers.
    Oh I forgot, Wallace, Daly something, something.
    I hope I’m not destroying this mockumentary thread.

    [SA=Sturmabteilung]



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    Mod warning:

    @Lucien_Sarti I will advise you to tread very carefully, as your last 2 posts are very close to uncivil/trolling territory. Any more such attempts will see you get an official warning.

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