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R.I.P. off

  • 17-12-2024 06:16PM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 98 ✭✭


    I see R.I.P. are to charge €100 for a death notice, didn’t take Irish Times long. Wonder how many deaths a day are published and how much this move will make



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 72,745 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Fair few funeral directors charged for the effort of making the (free) listing in the first place, so there's some people being quite surprised that it was ever free!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,087 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    The cost of living includes the cost of dying. It'll be interesting to see does traffic reduce.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,280 ✭✭✭gipi


    A newspaper notice costs about 300 euro (according to the website below), so it will be cheaper to post online.

    https://www.fanagans.ie/arranging-a-funeral/funeral-arrangements/funeral-costs



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,102 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    "Will remain free for the ordinary punter" - yeah…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 460 ✭✭Rooks


    Funeral directors will simply pass on the cost to the family.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,102 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    Undertakers must be getting a chunk of that new fee, otherwise they could just set up a rival site and rip.ie would be dead in the water.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,047 ✭✭✭blackbox


    I posted a death last year on RIP and I'm pretty sure I was charged €34 for it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,509 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Undertaker gave me the login for RIP and I wrote my mother's death notice.
    Undertaker charged for it.
    I wanted to challenge the item but like I am sure happens in a lot of cases, the rest of the family thought that would be distasteful.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 679 ✭✭✭bureau2009


    Interesting opportunity for a civic minded person to start an alternative listing FREE OF CHARGE. Lots of people with the relevant skills to be an online social entrepreneur. Go for it!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 72,745 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Would take years and years to get the existing cohort of ghouls, sorry, daily users and also undertakers to move site.

    Also, I expect you'll find ten different sites pop up each of which gets about a twentieth of the total deaths posted. And never develop any income stream at all.

    There's a reason the "new free classified ads" sites we see spammed on here constantly rarely last beyond the first domain renewal date.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,102 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    Yes a rival would need a big grouping of undertakers to exclusively come onboard at launch, perhaps all of those in Dublin.

    I suppose we have MyHome and Daft for property sales, that seems to work, both charge fees. €100 for basically a classified ad on a popular website is crazy. It's poorly or not moderated at all for posts that go up in condolences, seen some mad comments submitted for high profile criminals who died.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,301 ✭✭✭bigroad


    Donedeal could start somthing soon.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,510 ✭✭✭woejus


    i can't bereave it



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,153 ✭✭✭Notmything


    My undertaker definitely charged for putting my mother's notice on RIP when she died a few years ago.

    Tbh I always assumed they charged for listings



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,102 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    €3 to bump up a death notice to the homepage 😂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,196 ✭✭✭Economics101


    RIP when free is so comprehensive (close to 100% coverage) that it can apparently be used to estimate death rates more quickly than the official Registrar General figures, because of delays in registering deaths. This valuable feature will vanish once they charge.

    Not that that will stop the Irish Times lecturing us on the public good. 😎



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,775 ✭✭✭✭sligeach


    I don't buy The Irish Times(any time I hear their weekend ad preview it's full of muck), but if I did, I'd be boycotting the newspaper. Shower of rip-off #####! I hope it bombs and someone creates a free counterpart, like restfree.ie or some witty alternative.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 750 ✭✭✭Messi19


    Mournhub



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,530 ✭✭✭SuperBowserWorld


    StiffAsABoards.ie



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,556 ✭✭✭✭LambshankRedemption


    My mother died 2 years ago and I distinctly remember a 50 euro charge for death notice on RIP.ie. So if the charge was 50 back when it was free, presumably its going to go up to 150 (or possibly more). Like you, it was felt that haggling over the invoice was distasteful.

    Lots of people have funeral insurance now, so the under takers get away with charging pretty much what they want.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,763 ✭✭✭✭Strumms




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,468 ✭✭✭beachhead


    What muck? I see it sells out occasionally in my local sop



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24 stevenmartin99


    BrownBread.ie



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 274 ✭✭babyducklings1




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 72,745 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    If you are planning to try start a rival, you need to understand that it won't make money for years. If ever.

    You won't even have ads on day 1; and ad income is appalling these days. rip.ie made most of its money off the directories of funeral service providers; who also won't pay you money day one for listings.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,207 ✭✭✭✭kippy


    There are a few things here:

    1. There are (not insignificant, but unknown publicilly) costs involved in hosting, developing and manageing the site. Over the some of the costs may have gone down but the complexity of the site and other aspects involved may have gone up. I am surprised they were essentially able to keep the site free to post on for as long as they did.
    2. Add revenue has been dropping for a while. That model isn't enough to sustain a service such as this.

    Seperately it appears:

    1. Some undertakers have been charging an RIP related fee to the bill payers which they are within their rights to charge as there is some work involved but they didn't actually need to pay RIP for the notice. I think its strange that people pay the undertaker for X,Y and Z but expect some of the other service providers in the chain to do things for free. (I appreciate not all undertakers did this)
    2. It's difficult to query anything involved in funeral services - there's definetly some consumer abuse going on because of this - that's a seperate question.

    €100 sounds expensive - roughly 35,500 people died in Ireland in 2023. Lets say 25K notices ended up on RIP - thats approximately 2.5 million per annum + whatever other ancillarry income comes in from the site. Thats not an insignificant business and I'd wager that 25K notices is conservative.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,902 ✭✭✭brokenbad


    Toast.ie



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,938 ✭✭✭RayCon


    slán.ie



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 956 ✭✭✭crayon80


    Someone on prime time mentioned that condolences will remain free for now. And i think said there's a charge of £14 in the UK for a condolences, is there a rip.co.uk does anyone know?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,468 ✭✭✭beachhead


    heavensent.ie passedon.ie raisedup.ie



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