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Manchester United Thread 25/26 - Teamtalk/Transfers/Gossip Mod Note in OP 26.09.24

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 502 ✭✭✭GolfPar


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    Very pointed message from Beckham on Instagram.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,173 ✭✭✭✭loyatemu


    nice of Becks to take time out from his busy schedule flogging airfryers.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,177 ✭✭✭NITRO95


    Obviously he has no interest in bringing certain people to Miami



  • Posts: 19,923 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    You praise Weghorst last year but dismiss Rashford despite the "good season a couple of years ago" being the exact same time period 😂

    Rashford has been made a scapegoat tbh. The start of this season he played the way everyone was asking. Passing before trying to shoot and spending most of the time off the ball pressing.

    Is he good at pressing or tackling? No he's not but he was putting in the effort. Then the issue was that he wasn't affecting games.

    It is what it is and nobody is going to change their mind on him. Still the (low bar) top league scorer this season despite not having a shot the first 3 games.

    He doesn't appear to have the mentality to deal the current pile on and even if he did you'd have the same people who were waiting for his form to turn so they could drag him down waiting again for it. It's exactly what we always used to criticise the English press for and now it's the fans themselves at it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 502 ✭✭✭GolfPar


    He looks like and acts like on the pitch that he couldn't care less. Maybe that is why the fans are so frustrated with him. Micah Richards tried to defend him yesterday and couldn't come up with any sort of logic when it was put up to him by Keane & Neville.

    In fairness to Amorim he will get another or several other chances when he proves he deserves them but I fail to see where he fits in, in a fully functioning team without passengers.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,731 ✭✭✭Caustic


    Rashford wasn't putting the effort in this season at all, I think he had one game where he did and he got credit for it, but no he wasn't doing it at the start of the season, he is passing more now because he doesn't even get shooting opportunities due to him being unable to beat a man or just people learning he always goes inside so is easily blocked off.

    People say he gets unfairly criticised but I wouldn't be making this post if people weren't making things up to defend him about.

    Someone the other day called him professional but he has had more disciplinary actions in the past two years then I eve remember any united player having we are now onto a 3rd manager who has had issues with him, (ole said he took his eye off the ball, ten hagg constant disciplinary actions including the bender in Belfast and now Almiron leaving him and garnacho out of the derby game)

    But somehow it's not rashford that's the problem it's the people criticizing him at some point you have to wake up to what he is, sure we all hope he turns it around but as has been said often enough now he is 27, has been struggling to keep his place against 20 year old who isn't exactly lighting it up either and now has a manger who won't accept low effort and work rate and also hasn't a position for him with his preferred formation.

    Even the most ardent rashford fans must admit it looks like his days are numbered



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 35,338 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    TIme to trust the manager who has not let us down, rather than supporting players who have let us down time and again. Some fans might get that eventually.

    If you can't see that after yesterday you just want misery.

    GGMU.

    EVENFLOW



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,887 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    Some people refeused to get of the "World Cup Winner Pogba is our best world class player" ship until it had sunk to the seabed and it seems the same is happening regarding Rashford.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,941 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    Tbh I just bristle at the constant, gleeful, eviseration of him regardless of what's happening.

    Its always him, always his fault.

    Like yesterday, someone said it's insane ETH didn't play amad. The response was to take a shot at and blame Rashford.

    As a fan I want to see the best in our players and I want them to do well. So I bump against the abuse Rashford has been getting for 3 or more years, not just the probably deserved criticism he is getting now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,177 ✭✭✭NITRO95


    No player deserves abuse. However I wouldn't call what Rashford receives on here abuse. And let's be clear he nor anyone in his circle is never seeing what we say. Posters on here pushback on the idea that Rashford is some generational talent that works hard and just through no fault of his own can't quite produce any form despite receiving years and years and years of opportunities.

    Rashford has talent, nobody has ever denied that. His attitude over the past 2+ years however is shocking. As pointed out above we are now onto 3 consecutive managers who have had to discipline him and it's 6 managers if you include Ragnick, Mourinho and Southgate. It can't always be someone else's fault. He's a 27 year old professional footballer, when does he start to take responsibility for his own actions?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,787 ✭✭✭Iseedeadpixels


    Calling Rashford crap or lazy on here isn't abuse, compare this thread and the general thread where warnings were (Did I mix up the where/were? 😅)handed out yesterday for abuse.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 377 ✭✭17togo


    I didn't praise weghorst, I said he was generally accepted because he worked hard. That's the bare minimum that most fans ask for.

    He's not been scapegoated, he's been called out for his crap attitude and performances as have plenty of other players. He's also been given more opportunities than any other players to right those crap performances. Micah Richards tried to turn the debate towards 'poor rashford' on sky after the game yesterday and was rightly put in his box.

    As you said yourself he's not good at pressing or tackling, but he's also not very proficient in scoring lately either. 4 goals, 2 against Everton, 1 against Ipswich and Porto! So what does he provide for the team if he's not doing any of those things. And before you start saying "but but but rasmus". They're at very different stages in their career and rasmus works hard.

    Everyone that's critical of him will change their mind about him if he starts performing and scoring regularly an justify the massive contract he's on. But you refuse to criticise him ever. How long are you gonna give him a pass for?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,731 ✭✭✭Caustic


    It was mainly Garnacho who was taking amads spot under ten hagg although rashford did play a few games out right near the end, so again you would be making stuff up in your head to suit your narrative.

    Saying amad should have started over maz at 10 isnt a dig at maz and it isnt a dig at any player that obviously our best player should have been starting all season.

    Its good he is finally getting the credit he should have all season im sure finally amad makes every united fans best 11 but it took a while with some



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,941 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    There was a post yesterday about EtH not playing Amad, and the response to it was his loyalty to rashford cost him his job.

    But I'll leave it there. If I try to defend myself from such commentry will get me banned.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 18,763 Mod ✭✭✭✭DM_7


    He has been excellent lately and 3 at the back suits him, always has.

    Great to see a player make that type of recovery in form. To be fair he never stopped backing himself or dropped his head despite what people were saying. Well done to him.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 18,763 Mod ✭✭✭✭DM_7


    There was a post about not playing Amad that included ETH even picking Maz at 10 ahead of him.

    The reply added to the point about how loyalty to players, like Rashford, over Amad were part of what cost his job.

    It wasn't gleeful or an evisceration of Rashford. It was a fair observation to put forward considering how inconsistent Rashford has been and how key he was in Ten Hag's selections.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 35,338 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    Nobody is gleeful that some players are not doing well.

    Would ya ever grow up with that nonsense.

    I could not care less about my opinion being wrong if it meant United won. Ya could bookmark it for all I care.

    I don't think " I am delighted xyz player is dropped so I can be right and brag about it on some fourm"

    Maybe, you know, if players least tried for club would be start.

    Players can have bad games, dip in form, have bad seasons, but if ya cant see that the attitude of certain players at club since Fergie left is below par than we deserve all the poor form we get.

    EVENFLOW



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,276 ✭✭✭mobydopy




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,216 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    Does it never occur to some people exactly why this conversation is even able to rumble on for so many years?

    Like, how many years does it actually take for people to recognise a trend?

    https://thebusbybabe.sbnation.com/2019/5/20/18628148/manchester-united-2018-19-player-reviews-marcus-rashford

    At times this season, Rashford seemed on the verge of a major breakthrough. He remains blessed with frightening pace and a strong shot, but where’s the end product? Rashford hit a purple patch with 8 goals in a two-month stretch at mid-season, spanning the tail end of the Mourinho era through Solskjaer’s molten start. But he didn’t do much before or after.

    United’s miserable finish to the season coincided with a frustrating barren spell for Rashford — just one goal in his final eleven matches. When Ole first arrived as caretaker, he expressed an interest in helping the young forward settle down in front of goal and convert more chances. Hopefully that’s still high on the manager’s list, because Rashford really needs the help

    Sound familiar?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,449 ✭✭✭The Big Easy


    Why don't you go off and cherry pick all the positive Rashford press clippings for balance?

    Your line of attack is tiresome and predictable much like United's before RA



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,375 ✭✭✭El Gato De Negocios


    Does this mean that Amorim et al are scapegoating him like us fans?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,941 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    The trend being - when the team is rubbish, rashford is rubbish.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,166 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
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    Great news, hasn't been focused in a long time. Cut the rot out, Garnacho next please (thanks to the leaks).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,941 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    Muppetiers saying Rashford is for sale, but its the same as the summer, and the same for basically everyone. they would look at bids for basically every player because there is no player they see as required for sucess within the current squad. Garnacho for sale in the same way, but would need to do less than rashford to be kept - as Rashford's wages means he has a higher bar to clear to be worth keeping



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,449 ✭✭✭The Big Easy


    You can debate the Rashford one, and one side is probably more convincing than the other right now.

    But why would anyone want to sell Garnacho at this point?!

    If we were buying him for 80 million off West Ham or Brighton we'd be delighted.

    Garnacho has a fair amount of road left before he should be turfed out. Now if he doesn't respond favourably to RA's challenge, that's different. I expect him to respond in the right manner and he finally has a coach who can make him the player he has the talent to be



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,166 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
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    If he's leaking line ups and being a petulant git he should be shipped out.

    As a player I really like him, he's capable of being really special but we've tolerated too many gifted players who've been poison in the dressing room for too long.

    I don't know want United to lose his ability, but if he's impacting morale in the camp then no amount of bicycle kicks are worth keeping him around for. He's just not prolific enough to justify it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,216 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    I know it's awkward that people have been talking about Rashford losing his smile for over 5 years now, but that doesn't make it any less true.

    Of course, Rashford could end all of this discussion by just working hard and performing to his ability, but that doesn't seem to have occurred to a few people.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,216 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    Because if the club were to maximise the price gotten for him it would be a huge boost to PSR, and that for a player that has shown green flags but also a lot of red flags.

    And no, if we were buying an unproven, inconsistent 20 year old from Brighton for 80m I most certainly would not be delighted.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,475 ✭✭✭Zico


    Every player is for sale at the right price and there are some players we can't shift no matter the price.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,269 ✭✭✭paulbok


    Has there been any chatter of a new contract for Diallo?

    I know there is the extra year that can be triggered (does that have to be done before Jan?), but I'm sure the club want to tie him down properly asap.



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