US Healthcare CEO Murdered - Please read mod note at OP

They could, but it seems unlikely. You’d need at least 10 out of 12 people to decide that outcome and I just can’t see there being that many willing to do it. It’s a horrible situation for the jury to be in - such a high profile case and no doubt have been impacted by some way directly or indirectly by the health insurance industry.

If they were to do it though I think it could be a monumental decision for the US, a clear message that the citizens of the country do not approve of the rampant profiting off of denial of care. It might be a cause for change. But I still can’t see it happening!

2. I quoted a post saying literally that at least twice. Did you miss it?

3. Not sure I've quoted those, but they were there. Perhaps they've been removed - I would hope so.

Maybe "piece of ****" or a call for CEOs to "keep being shot" would do you instead?

You can see that those phrases are there, right?

Fair enough, I've edited the post in question.

If they convict him of murder then that confirms he had motive, whereas if they convict of manslaughter it can be spun as diminished responsibility of a loon.

I think all corporate murica would prefer the latter.

So you want me to stop the 'racist dogwhistle' in favour of one based on class?

Sorry bud, that still doesn't wash. You can hate on the poor and vulnerable all you want, but please don't try and normalise it.

Let's be clear here, your actual stance is that we shouldn't speak ill of the dead. Even if they had an incredibly negative impact on society. You've basically portrayed anyone who has no sympathy for Thompson or who just has a negative view of the individual and what he represents to be condoning murdering him.

If Saville was murdered then perhaps we couldn't criticise him. Is there mourning period that we should respect and then be allowed to discuss someone's characters flaws before it is allowed?

They're already well-known. This guy was totally unknown, and all we know about him now is that maybe he is responsible for Americans getting poor health care. Then again, maybe not. Some employees have said he was the first CEO they'd had who seemed to want to improve the situation.

But even if he was a sh1t CEO, that's the health system that Americans want. They don't want "socialised" healthcare. I posted a link to a Canadian guy who died from Canadian healthcare failures, and - of course - Americans are jumping in to say "Yay, US healthcare is the best".

So the rush to judgment by Irish people who are totally unaffected by whichever of those two versions is correct anyway - unlike Kissinger or Murdoch or Musk - is… sort of odd. Being kind.

And even if Musk died, if he was murdered I'd expect there to be some questioning of whether the hatred expressed for him did not have some responsibility in inciting his death.

I also think it's truly bizarre that posters who are against the death penalty are elbowing each other out of the way to dance on this guy's grave. So much for due process.

Again understanding why someone in the US might feel they have motive for offing that CEO doesn't mean people here are dancing on his grave, and it's not equivocal to the Health Minister getting assassinated.

Donnelly has been democratically unelected.

I understand why people in the US may feel zero remorse for victim, and why some may even feel vindication, but looking in from the outside the whole episode appears a direct product of the iniquities of how healthcare in the US is profit before service.

They charged him with murder as an act of terrorism.

To be fair children getting shredded in schools get thoughts and prayers, you can't put a price on that.

US society is in an arms race with itself.

a very very broken society