Deposit return scheme (recycling) - Part 2

The fecking local Dunnes has removed the bins so I can't dispose of the bags I use to bring the bottles/cans. I understand their reasoning but FFS are they really that hard up that they had to take the bins away? Or is it the staff are to lazy to change them?

The Maine and Barr soft drink glass bottles kept deposits on them in NI/Donegal far later than other stuff so my elder siblings remember picking up one dumped in bushes for refunds. Gone before I remember. Late 70s early 80s.

You had to bring them back to a shop that sold that exact type of bottle but otherwise it's quite similar to now. Reversion to norm after 40-45 years (or more like 60+ in some places) of a gap

i wonder who anti-green folks will blame when more 'green' based policies are implemented in the next government!

I don't think I've ever gone to my local Dunnes with cans and seen both machines working.

It's actually far more common to have both out of order.

Best case scenario you end up queuing behind a couple of black bag recyclers for 15 minutes.

I have to laugh that the error message on the machine puts the onus on the recycler to call the shop to come out and sort the issue.

What a joke of a system that mainly peanalises the people who were previously responsibly recycling.

…or maybe the green party arent actually completely and totally responsible for green based policies, but many entities are, including other parts of the government, including ffg!

In my experience all the stock in the supermarkets is in scope.

There should be a very limited number of rejects at this stage.

I find that if an in scope container is rejected on first attempt it will go through on the second.

I have also seen the reject bins being used as a dumping place by some people which may have contributed to their withdrawal.

Blaming the GP for introducing DRS makes little sense.

The policy was supported by their coalition partners FF and FG and the main opposition parties SF, LAB and SD.

Thinking about it, I don't recall it being opposed by anyone.

Ah jaysus. Its seems its a very touchy subject whether Re-Turn cost the Green Party any votes in the most recent GE. Previous election put forward for some reason. Now we have into the future. Are we still trying to say it didnt cost them ANY votes? Its a pain in the hole scheme that costs everyone more money. Of course it cost them votes. Deary me.

I wonder what % of the items being used in the return scheme are picked up from the roadside and similar locations . These items never see a bin as they are left there to become part of the roadside ‘debris’ .i I am aware of a few youngsters who find it worth their while to scavenge the items dumped on the roadside - and especially in rural areas. They can more or less can tell you the ‘hot spots’ to concentrate on - based on how long it takes someone to drink the proverbial can of coke as they leave town

Seeing as the thread is active again, I can report that Dunnes own brand one litre Soda Water is now 59 cents. Before DRS came in it used to be 75 cents. Of course back before the Ukraine war it was 25 cents. Now you have to pay 25 cents deposit.

And again with this "nonsense" that the CPI would track the sort of changes that were dropped in with DRS affecting multi-packs, sizes etc, cheaper imported products no longer available.

Yeah the Greens didn't lose a single vote over DRS. Not a single one out of the tens of thousands they lost! It's a miracle. Must be about the only thing that didn't cost them votes.

The greens main problem is they lack self awareness. Any Green policy that was brought in, they were happy to say it was their idea, oblivious to how popular or not it was. The DRS scheme was introduced during a period of high inflation. No-one at government level thought "Hmmm, this scheme is going to increase peoples shopping basket totals… Maybe we should postpone it's deployment until inflation has eased?".

Instead the Green's were gleeful in the schemes introduction and were happy to take the credit for it. Blissfully unaware of how unpopular it was going to become.

People must be imagining the concept of 'shrinkflation'.

Must have been a "secret cabal" and only happened in peoples heads.

They must be imagining cheap imported products disappearing from the shelves when DRS came in - products not in scope of the CPI you keep banging on about irrellevently.

They must be imagining multi-packs reducing in size when DRS came in - products also not in scope of the CPI you keep banging on about irrellevently.

Must have been a "secret cabal" and only happened in peoples heads.
Which secret cabal did that?

Is that the same "secret cabal" that lead to Ireland having a much larger exemption from the scheme than other countries?
You know, the countries we were supposed to have copied a successful scheme from?
Or a different one?

It gets confusing when you start bringing nonsense about secret cabals into it doesn't it.

Of course it happened. Lucozade Zero, was 2.00 before DRS. 2.20 after DRS.

Stickered on the bottles themselves........

Multipacks dropping from 24 pack to 18.......

As stated earlier however, I can move on if you can, which it doesn't appear that you can.

As someone stated a few posts back, it's very concerning that a whole cohort of people in various locations don't seem to have any issues binning bottles losing out on the return, and more concerning again that there's no incentive for ReTurn to try reduce the amount of product in circulation..these two very things make the scheme utterly pointless and no better as a scheme to improve the environment as our old ways were.