US Healthcare CEO Murdered - Please read mod note at OP

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Well in fairness, modern democracy was born out of a veritable multi year bloodbath where the aristocracy was systematically beheaded(French revolution). But I agree the killing of one CEO isn't going to have much effect.

But I would say it is just another warning, the less empowered people feel to express themselves democratically, the more extreme actors(who might well be irrational) will resort to violence.

For me the problem is pretty simple. The moral obligation of corporate management is to maximize returns for their shareholders according to corporate theory. The obligation of government is to represent the interests of the electorate. A corporation maximizing profit is often in competition with the interests of the citizens. In a functioning democracy, the government will resolve this competition in favour of the citizens. In a democracy that is corrupt by unlimited corporate political donations, extreme dependance on corporate lobbying to set legislation, conflict of interest in terms of unlimited personal trading by politicians with access to non public information …..I could go on .. and lack of direct democracy. The function of government is corrupt and the electorate becomes disenfranchised, correctly concluding that they in fact have very little power to make change. In fairness in Ireland and UK and I believe the rest of europe there are limits to political donations and though there is no doubt corruption, it is not as extreme as in the US.

luigi should run for president to make his legal issues go away.

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/12/11/business/ceo-shooting-unitedhealth-security/index.html

Security firm Global Guardian received 70 requests from concerned companies within the first 36 hours of the shooting – a huge spike

All in vain in reality.

If a lad 100 pounds wet who couldn't make the school shooting team got a few MMs from blowing Trumps head off, then what chance has anyone else.

I do notice the lack of reports on these companies ringing any companies that specialise in corporate morals?

Just read a transcript there, it’s more soulless than I was expecting.

Championing themselves as a company who strives to make healthcare cheaper by eliminating waste is obviously rubbish. Firstly, eliminating waste should never be done at the expense of the consumer. If the doctor says they need the procedure, they should get the procedure. They should invest in medical innovation if they’re looking to save money long term. Secondly, the money they don’t spend doesn’t go back into healthcare, it goes into shareholder dividends and huge corporate bonuses.

If it really were about eliminating waste, the first place they should look is the giant industry of middlemen who seem to do nothing more than take consumer money for themselves.

"These companies are the waste, though"

But in the absence of universal healthcare these companies are the only way anyone can afford any kind of care. The answer has to be some form of universal healthcare, and then private healthcare will have to compete with that.

went to wrong fast food joint.

Absolutely, but that's why I find the victim-blaming of a literal murder-victim so disingenuous and frankly appalling.

America is not North Korea. It's not China or Syria or Iran. Hell, America is not even India. There is literally nothing stopping anyone from starting up a lobby group to get the law changed. Nobody would go to prison, nobody would even lose their job - probably not even if they worked for one of those insurance companies.

All that is stopping them is "Oh it's all too hard, I can't possibly do all that!"

Well, that and the fact that not enough people support any form of universal healthcare - that's dangerous socialist talk, that is! But that's Americans' fault - including the ones who end up getting kicked in the face by the system when they get sick. FFS they didn't even vote for Harris. They don't want healthcare and they don't want gun control - they prefer to be permanently enraged about the failings in their system so they can justify shooting people they're angry about.

As for people in Ireland who are supposedly horrified at lax American gun violence and the death penalty, but who are cheering on a rich Ivy League kid from "one of the most prestigious Maryland families" (according to a family friend on the radio) who used a ghost gun to shoot dead a man who genuinely worked his way up as in the American Dream: well. 🙄 No trial, just shoot a man dead in the street - and to hell with any collateral damage or trauma of passers-by. And they somehow think they're good guys.

"American Dream". Theres not much cheering as has been said already. Just that the vast majority arent mourning him due to his scummy business ethics - including insider trading FFS.

The whole "innocent" victim narrative is a non-runner.