US Healthcare CEO Murdered - Please read mod note at OP

I believe the mantra in the US healthcare industry is a patient cured is a customer lost.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File%3ALife_expectancy_vs_healthcare_spending.jpg

I was working with a lad who was born in the US with type I diabetes who told me the healthcare cost for his condition was the trigger for them to move to Ireland, I think one of his parents was Irish to begin with.

He explained that here there's annual payment but it's less than €200 and free if you qualify under low means. Whereas his annual insulin costs in the US state they last lived in was around $6.000 a year and rising. Obscene.

I do have some complaints about our longterm illness scheme, just cause it's a pretty limited list that needs updating. However we're definitely light years ahead of the US.

I've been on some biologics in the past and it cost me about a hundred euro every two months. The equivalent is around 5000 euro in the US. You can do complicated rebate **** to get your money back but they seem to get you to jump through hoops. I'd simply never consider moving to the US just cause of how unwelcoming their system is.

When I heard the €10.000 reward for information I couldn't help but feel that on the ground there actually isn't a strong desire to catch the assassin. Possibly the NYPD have issues with their healthcare scheme and feel unmoved at this time.

Tellingly I saw a fairly simple comment on a news source saying they hope he gets away with it. One of the responses was me too.

Not too familiar with the American health system. From what I know, the spend a tremendous amount on healthcare with fairly dire results to show. Remember one commentator saying it made the pentagon's spending look responsible and reasonable in comparison.

He still had a family and loved ones.

I started reading a book about the legal opioid crisis in the US and I simply stopped reading because the big problem was greed, and in the US greed is good.

Companies like Perdue acted in a predatory manner to get people hooked, and also enable a black market in people selling their prescriptions. Whitney Houston died of an opioid overdose obtained from a traded prescription if I remember rightly.

I think opioid overdoses is now the number one cause of non natural deaths in the US.

I can't remember, pretty recent book but it was frustrating to read as it's simply legalised addiction profiteering. Most of what I read described how Perdue honed in on West Virginia where they'd get paid by a federal compensation fund for ex-miners coping with health complications from their previous occupation.

Then they pretty much help set up clinics in towns bordering other states with tighter regulations so they'd enable up cross border addiction.

That link about the repatriation was awful, but I won't be surprised if we see premiums for holiday travel to the US really start to ramp up to the point that it will put people off.

Sorry, had to laugh

there's no ignorance

its only become news as a joke

there are certainly better uses of RTEs time than to feature this and the fact no one created a thread on this forum yesterday, which is full of useless tat most of the time says all that needs to be said

It’s a BS article that attempts to offer an explanation for people being cnuts. Obviously it’s not going to follow through to the rational conclusion of its proposed ‘shared responsibility’ by pointing out that those who are expressing glee are liable for murder as the person who commits the act and should suffer the same fate.

It’s not untrue though, plodder was making the point in relation to the high cost of drugs used in the treatment of rare medical conditions. He’s not wrong, Orkambi being one particular example, which required Governments in a number of countries to come to an agreement with the manufacturers in order to be able to procure the drug and many which will follow down the pipeline:

ORKAMBI® has also been approved by regulatory authorities in the U.S., in Great Britain, Australia and Canada, for people with CF and two copies of the F508del mutation in the CFTR gene, ages 1 and above.

As a result of long-term reimbursement agreements in Austria, Denmark, the Republic of Ireland and Sweden, and provisions for access in health care systems such as Germany, eligible patients in these countries will have access to the expanded indication for ORKAMBI® shortly following regulatory approval by the European Commission. As a result of the long-term reimbursement agreement in the UK, children ages 1 to <2 years old in the UK have had access to this expanded indication for ORKAMBI® since MHRA approval in March 2023. Vertex will continue to work with reimbursement bodies across the European Union, Australia and Canada to ensure access for all eligible patients.

https://investors.vrtx.com/news-releases/news-release-details/european-commission-approves-orkambir-lumacaftorivacaftor

https://amp.theguardian.com/society/2019/aug/12/drug-maker-will-make-21bn-from-treating-cystic-fibrosis

Eventually NICE relented:

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cxxxz01w462o.amp

plodder was referring to the cost of drugs and the State or Governments or public healthcare services providers having to make similar life and death decisions based on cost/benefit analysis as healthcare insurance providers do, but healthcare insurance providers aren’t held to account in the same way as Government are, because healthcare insurance providers for one thing are private companies, and plodder’s point is that more regulation of the industry is required.

Even more so in the US where the cost of private healthcare insurance and healthcare provision is based upon market forces and priced on what the market will bear, which is why people living in poverty will always lose out, because the political will doesn’t exist to introduce a universal healthcare system like that which exists in European countries.

One person choosing to commit murder doesn’t in any way impact upon that reality.

So did all the people he sent to their grave just so he could get his bonus. At least his family won't be left in financial ruin because of medical debts. This guys family will live in luxury for the rest of their lives because of the suffering of others.

50 year old man with children brutally executed in an instant.. to read some of the heartless and nasty and gleeful posts about this evil act really does amplify what a flawed species we are.