Murders of two gay men in Sligo

Juma Palani,the dad is on the dole since 2006. Disability since about 2021. What an absolute joke we are and he is appealing it.

I know someone with savings,150k and stupidly claimed the non contributory pension without declaring it. Pension has been completely frozen now.

How many other low life's like this are we supporting.

If the money is the proceeds of crime, they should obviously seize it. But if it's legimate wealth, the state can't just steal from the family of this scumbag.

Wh0 has the father murdered?

That's a remarkable assertion given that means tested benefits were being claimed at the same time they held large sums of undeclared cash. Social welfare fraud is a crime

You know there's an alternative reality where this family is deported and we all rejoice.

It's only the tip of the iceberg, if there's a blind eye being turned to 6 figure bicycle shelters how many scumbags like this do we have in the country fraudulently claiming welfare with that amount in the pocket? Probably quite a few under the radar out of fear for being branded a racist for calling them out.

His whole family needs to be deported ASAP, personas non grata. As for the evil **** he fathered I won't say anymore because apparently wishing bad things on bad people is against the rules now (wouldn't want anyone's feelings hurt, even **** murderers 🙄)

I'd imagine most people who packed up to move around the world would have about that much from their house alone. There's a big difference between a total net worth of 350k and a 350k in cash alongside all your other assets.
If you sold you house, your belongings and moved around the world. I'd would assume you were a criminal if you had 350k.

The families can sue the murderer for damages. That has nothing to do with how much money or cash is family has. Unless your saying the murder is somehow connected to the money, which I don't think you area. Works out better if the cash is not the familes and belonged to the murderer in that case.

Possibly, but (a) we don't know that that's the case; the whole point of the court proceedings is to establish whether it is or not; and (b) either way this has nothing, absolutely nothing, do to with the fact that their son is a psychotic homophobic murderer.

I realise that, through divine inspiration, you magiclly know who owns this money and how they got it, but the rest of us mortals are going to have to wait for the court proceedings to play out befre we can hope to match your wisdom.

If you are entering or leaving an EU country with more than 10k in cash you have to declare it, you know what happens if you arrive at Dublin airport with a bag stuffed with 350k? It's all seized and you have to account for every penny of it or forfit it. I hope the state keeps the cash to offset the cost of decades of benefit fraud.

Its a discussion forum!

If they're refugees, aren't they likely to have had to just up and leave? I mean, that's the explanation for not having passports or other documents, so it's hard to see how they'd advertise selling their farm or whatever if they had to sneak out of the country unnoticed.

If they're economic migrants, then yes they could possibly sell their house etc - but even then, in very poor countries that's still a LOT of money to have left over after you've paid the traffickers. I'd expect houses don't cost nearly as much in Iraq as they do in Dublin or even Sligo. And wouldn't they have been expected to declare their savings when entering the country and also when applying for welfare?

"The Central Criminal Court was told that Yousef Palani was born in Iraq and came to Ireland aged six, while both his parents are of Kurdish ethnicity and had received Irish citizenship in 2021."

// as irish citizens they cannot be deported, BUT could that be yanked from them?

Revocation of certificates of naturalisation.19.—

(1) The Minister may revoke a certificate of naturalisation if he is satisfied—

(a) that the issue of the certificate was procured by fraud, misrepresentation whether innocent orfraudulent, or concealment of material facts or circumstances, or

(b) that the person to whom it was granted has, by any overt act, shown himself to have failed in his duty of fidelity to the nation and loyalty to the State, or

(c) 45 that (except in the case of a certificate of naturalisation which is issued to a person of Irish descent or associations) the person to whom it is granted has been ordinarily resident outside the State or, in the case of an application for a certificate of naturalisation granted under section 15A, resident outside the island of Ireland (otherwise than in the public service) for a continuous period of seven years and without reasonable excuse has not during that period registered annually in the prescribed manner his name and a declaration of his intention to retain Irish citizenship with an Irish diplomatic mission or consular office or with the Minister, or

(d) that the person to whom it is granted is also, under the law of a country at war with the State, a citizen of that country, or(e) that the person to whom it is granted has by any voluntary46act, other than marriage or entry into a civil partnership, acquired another citizenship.

Committed social welfare fraud is an "overt act" .. "loyalty to the State" is it not…covers the parents (asusmign they were jointly assessed for their benefits

Re. the young lad, Murder definitely overt and everyone has a "duty of fidelity to the nation" not to be murdering, so again grounds enough.

With Big Jim OC to take up the helm as MoJ - let's see if he has the cohones - would be a watershed moment for FF.