2024 F1 General Discussion Thread

Yeah there's bound to be a different conversation with board level people who look at the numbers to the sporting people who just want to win everything.

The kind of money Perez brings is a huge wedge of the overall budget.

Crazy situation for redbull. Perez had to go but I don't think Lawson is really standing out.

Sainz Should be in the redbull for next year. I wonder if Max wouldn't have it.

The only transparency left will be how transparent the efforts to effectively insulate MBS from any accusations are.

Side note. Interesting to see one of Perez's backers (Carlos Slim Domit) is on the senate. Maybe not so hard to understand why Red Bull are treating him so carefully.

That's some real Slim Shady dealings there. (Someone had to say it) 😋

What is it about sporting organisations that attract the worst? See also Fifa, UEFA, OCI, etc.

that's wild, as is the other article

https://www.bbc.com/sport/formula1/articles/c4gzn7gvjzzo

MBS has to go, no way around that.

I kind of assumed it would run until max retires and that'd be that. Is max retiring in 26? 👀

Really surprised that no one in here posted about Lewis Hamilton and his big interview about going to space with Everyday Astranaut.,

Exclusive interview Bernie Ecclestone, Personal and F1 stories.

Excellent watch.

Good news for KMag

I don't rate lewis as much as the british biased sky do, he's not a GOAT, he got lucky with his cars. MSC developed a lot of the mercedes early cars. Then once 2014 hit they were unbeatable. Arguably that level of dominance led to the restrictions on dev time that we have now. Him and his mid teammates that he sometimes struggled to or barely beat.

MSC, Senna, Max, Alonso, probably Vettel are drivers I'd have over lewis. One of my fav drivers growing up was Damon Hill and I'd rate Lewis as above that level or a bit higher. Hill won his WDC in 96 because he had by far the better car, couldnt beat MSC in 94 after half the season having schumacher out or black flagged, and only wins in 96 because he had a mid and novice teammate. Probably around (one of my all time fav drivers) Kimi actually.

Sainz should be in the redbull. No doubt about it. He's no generational talent but he has proven the equal of leclerc in that ferrari, he has come from the redbull stable, and only left for more opportunity so I don't see a reason other than max saying no that he isnt in the redbull next year. And I like max a lot. He drives like MSC and Senna did. Pushing the rules but not too much.

I'd isolate the hate to "English" rather than "British". Race winners like Sir Jackie Stewart and David Coulthard tend to be well liked around here while any English race winners over the years like Jonny Herbert, Jenson Button, Damon Hill, Lando Norris, George Russell and Sir Lewis Hamilton are either played down as nothing special or out right derided.

I'm not a Hamilton fan but hes been a brilliant driver in F1 and a far superior driver than Hill.He's right up there with the best of them.

The Sky w@nkfest over him when he was winning races I could see why people dislike and play down his achievements. Yeah he had a great car but he has the skills to match.

Was lucky to see him race for his debut in F1 many years ago.

He was/is an absolutely brilliant driver, but next season will be absolutely crucial for his legacy. If he is hammered by LeClerc like the way George has hammered him this season, then his legacy imo has been diminished and cannot be talked amongst the greatest of all time.

But them arguments are nonsense anyway, and always down to peoples opinions. There can't be any metrics comparable to each really and using WDC titles is a skewed argument