Kilkenny GAA Thread

Going off minor results Tullaroan should be B at least. Mooncoin are in A and should be in B, Bennetsbridge are also A and should be in B and OLG are also A and should be in Roinn C. These 3 teams are competing in A and as a result Roinn B and C are very strong. Dunnamaggin and Tullogher who are in the B final should be in A along with Galmay/Windgap.

Completely different argument and has nothing to do with the Boro playing one of their best players on their B team.

Sorry now can we clarify the situation.

Boro U21A team played OLG on the 2nd November and Cillian didn't play as he was standing in front of me and was doing water and hurl carrier

Boro U21 C team played Mullinavat on the 3rd of November and Cillian didn't play.

Boro U21 C team played Barrow Rangers and on the 16th of November and Cillian played according to reports here I wasn't at the game. If so he broke no rule.

Boro U21 A team played Bennettsbridge on the 17th of November and Cillian came on for the last 15-20 mins

Boro U21 A played the County final against Village and Cillian starred.

A week later Boro U21 C team played Tullaroan in the county final and Cillian didn't play.

Where was there a rule broken here?

Lets just say a little birdy told me that the drills are boring and repetitive especially by one guy who is lyngs right hand man.Mikey Comerford done the drills yet he was s&c coach,Conor phelan who was coach done very little and michael rice was goal keeping coach.Video analysis is very poor and players have to just sort it out themselves on the field.I've absolutely no reason to come on here and tell lies but are we surprised?the facts are there for everyone. No progress made on puckouts. The way we reacted to the sweeper against cw was cat malajon infact cw knew kk would make a hero out of Kevin macdonald. Tactically absolutely no Improvement or what kind if style do we play? Are we getting the best out of our players? Giving weighted balls into the forwards? Our puckouts hang in the air for ages and alot of the ball into the forwards is bad. We persisted with hitting eoin cody with ball despite being double marked. The whole thing is stale. Lyng was too cowardly to give lads a chance. WE knew the threat taylor was going to bring and that was a job for Jordan molloy but instead he done nothing. It's being well spoken about here about derek being too Conservative but he has no other choice but to give lads a proper chance. Altho it didn't go well in leinster I'd like to see that ttown half back line brought in although I heard Staunton and Eddie declined or weren't asked. There's more and more lads declining which is a bit disappointing. I thought Paul Cody might have something to offer. Billy drennan is probably lucky enough to hang on but he will be under pressure. It will be intresting to see how finonan goes hopefully half back. Couple of lads like Jeff neary,Marty Murphy and Billy Reid should freshen it up. Adam hogan was trusted and had a few hiary moments along the way,there's no reason why neary and Murphy couldn't make a impact next year. Theres a bit of surgery to be done on this kk team but I don't know if doctor lyng will do it. Wouldn't surprise me to see 13 or 14 starters from this year to next which would be a bit depressing.

Also Dec Wall from Vegas was announced as a selector and coach.

Only last week a s&c coach went to derry after working with 3 all ireland teams it's am awful pity the dinosaurs we have couldn't of brought down a high proven s&c instead of penny pinching the whole time. Noel Doherty will be help if he is allowed work with the players and put his stamp on it once they don't fall asleep first doing the u10 drills

Jaysus “penny pinching” we ain’t seen nothing yet according to rumours about the finances.

Forget about rules.

There is an understanding when a club enters an A and a B team that the B team is entered because they have large numbers at that age and are unable to provide games for everyone with just one team. It would also be a good method of making sure that a lot of players stay playing and don't just simply give up. I would have great admiration for any club that enters two teams.

Playing one of the best players in the county on yer B team is nothing short of acting the bollox. It also means that a genuine B team player is left on the line…. again. It abuses the privilege of being allowed to enter a second team. Going by your logic, a club like Dunamaggin or Gowran, for example, should just enter a "second" team into Roinn D, play all their A team players and win a county final. I ask the question. Why did ye enter a B team at all if ye are just going to use it to give extra games to yer best A team players. A challenge match or two would have sorted that.

Not being smart or anything, but carry on like this is is disgusting and one of reasons nobody likes ye.

Your spot on our county board have no vision there’s just a staleness to everything from the officers involved right through to the managers and selectors involved in minor u20 and senior

They ve be been fair to slow to move with the times gaa is an amateur game but is very much run professionally now at inter county level anyway

Our county board would remind you of when rugby went professional and the suits and blazers were trying to hang onto amateurism as long as possible to keep themselves relevant terrified do change

I think that’s why we have players declining to go in with Kilkenny now they know the set up isn’t great and is amateur and hear how other lads have been treated on extended training panels etc

Plenty of rumours going around anyway

I think you’re overreacting a bit on this, I understand your point but as the Boro poster said a player coming back from injury played for 20 minutes for the B team, he didn’t take a B team members starting place as you said and he played no further part in the competition. I wouldn’t have an issue with that at all to be honest.

If the boro were a county team they would be Dublin massive numbers and resources compared to other teams and clubs hoover up some underage titles but when push comes to shove at senior level always just missing something to get them over the line

Plenty of talk about them year after year they have this coach in that phycologist etc etc they re flying doing this and that yet they fail season after season

While the Boro have a one of the biggest picks in the county we are actually third behind OLG and the Village who both have 30% more in terms of numbers than the Boro.

I couldn't agree more with you though and as a Boro man it's incredibly frustrating to watch. I think underage the Boro have things very right and are successful at underage currently. We definitely have an issue transferring that to senior and as I've mentioned before the biggest issue I see is the clubs inability to keep a lot of players playing after the age of 24-25, be it travel, career, or moving away from Kilkenny there is a serious disconnect once players leave college. So the Boro regularly are fielding young teams without a spine of experience. It's just my theory and I'm not using it as an excuse but as an issue the club need to rectify.

A "little birdy "with a bruised ego no doubt. So that is what you put forward as fact? Peter Barry, Michael Rice , Derek Lyng and Peter Barry are multiple All Ireland winners that would go through a brick wall for their County.AS for little birdy......

No axe with the club, just a big problem with yer actions in this instance.

I can't help you if you don't see a problem with what happened here. If he needed game time ye should have got a challenge game, not play him on yer B team. This isn't a premier league reserve team type situation.

I did a large project a few years ago when I had too much time on my hands obviously and I took my map of the clubs and used the census figures to calculate the population and the playing age males for each of the clubs. Without sitting down and doing it all again as precisely as I had done it before going on the last census out of the 3 city teams OLG and the Village have approximately 11.5k each and the Boro have just over 8k I don't have the males of playing age to hand but I'll look it up tonight. The Boro should gain hugely over the next 5-10 years from the western environ expansion.

A prize for whoever guesses the next most populace club in the county?

I'd hazard a guess at Slieverue?