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Munster Team Talk Thread - Beirne After Reading

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,623 ✭✭✭Lost Ormond


    As leading 38-14 half time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,623 ✭✭✭Lost Ormond


    YEllow gilvarry. Contact in air.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,311 ✭✭✭Ben Bailey


    Implementing a playing style being dependent on the players currently available can be a risky strategy. Key players suffer long term injuries and that strategy collapses. And that approach is based on a 'more of the same please' brief to the incoming HC. All well & good when things are going well, but if results have been less than optimal then that strategy won't suffice either.

    Any mid season appointment brings huge challenges.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,623 ✭✭✭Lost Ormond


    Ulster try 9 gone 2nd half



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,021 ✭✭✭✭phog


    Munster win 50-33



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,623 ✭✭✭Lost Ormond


    Munster won but didn't think too much of their play. Munster battered Ulster up front



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,804 ✭✭✭snotboogie


    Munster looked good in the first half, second half was really messy. Lots of the promising generation who have and will stand out at 20’s over the last 4 years playing together so worth a watch back on Access Munster. Notably I thought the two second rows and winger who aren’t in the Munster squad or academy all did really well, not sure if they are older? Gleeson and L Coombes looked a class above when they chose to get involved, J Daly didn’t and was baited into giving a really stupid penalty away by Ulster. If O’Leary Kareem can play senior rugby at his size he’s the most exciting player in this years 20’s team, he looked tiny out there though. Sheehan was exceptional when he came on.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,316 ✭✭✭realhorrorshow


    Is the winger you are referring to Hubert Gilvarry? He was born in 2001, was on the same Connacht age grade teams as the likes of Shane Jennings and Cathal Forde.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,804 ✭✭✭snotboogie




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 74 ✭✭Ekano


    You say O'Leary Kareem looked tiny. Can you elaborate a little? Is it bulk required or height? Can he defend? It looked like an exciting lineup and gives a little hope for the future.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 106 ✭✭lonester99


    Most exciting from a Munster perspective maybe, but he might not even start if everyones fit for the 20s



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,804 ✭✭✭snotboogie


    Height, he looked 5’8 max. Maybe I’m being a bit harsh because he looked excellent yesterday.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,804 ✭✭✭snotboogie


    Nah from the team I recon. Outplayed DeKlerk yesterday.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 497 ✭✭sliabh 1956


    That was a pretty awful first half the break doesnt seem to have improved matters any bit.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,021 ✭✭✭✭phog


    First 20 minutes weren't too bad but then we caught the Irish bug and started dropping balls, left,right and centre.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,582 ✭✭✭sioda


    Ah Burns he just can't kick



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,391 ✭✭✭letowski


    At least the new saffer lhp is holding his own.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,756 ✭✭✭50HX


    PFP is playing well enough



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 497 ✭✭sliabh 1956


    gosh they made hard work of that😀



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,756 ✭✭✭50HX


    Loss run over, that's a big win v a stacked Lions team that have been playing well

    Hopefully build on it now with the group to come back from Dublin.

    Coombes,hodnett, jack o & bleuler went well I thought

    Farrell again in centre was great



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,666 ✭✭✭Pepp1989


    If burns could kick, it would have been more comfortable.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,021 ✭✭✭✭phog


    Billy really needs to make an impact when he's starting or Butler will pass him out.

    He was not to blame for a lot of our errors tonight but leaving 4 points behind from easy enough kicks made our task a bit more difficult.

    The officials seemed out of their depth but it probably didn't favour either team.

    The pack did well and I thought Bleuler had a great first game for us.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,391 ✭✭✭letowski


    I think that’s what’s frustrating about Burns, he doesn’t make much impact because there’s no real urgency to what he does. He sits deep in the pocket, he kicks down the line only about 10-15m, he doesn’t kick his goals well. He seems happy to go through the motions out there. I get he’s a veteran there to provide experience when JC is unavailable, but he just doesn’t offer enough for he. I’d be very surprised if he gets a second contract.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,021 ✭✭✭✭phog


    I’d be very surprised if he gets a second contract.

    At this stage so would I. Again, he's not to blame for our ills but he's contributing to some of them by just poor play and it's something you expect more from with his experience



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,756 ✭✭✭50HX


    He's extremely frustrating to watch

    I could see the logic in giving him a shot as cover with his experience but if I keep watching him I'll be bald b4 season end.

    I was giving him leeway til post Xmas but that's running out fairly quickly



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,216 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    Next week will be the big one. Stade Francais had big wins earlier in the season against Montpellier and Clermont and I'm sure they will be reviewing the recent Munster games giving them some confidence



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 546 ✭✭✭CONSI


    yes huge week coming up. Anyone know if Tom Aherne is injured, surprised he didnt play at the weekend if fit. At least it looks like the irish contingent will be back uninjured from irish camp so would expect Nash, Crowley, Casey, POM, Beirne all to come straight into the side which then should give us a bit more impact from the bench.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 12,913 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cookiemunster


    Ahern was listed as having a knock in Fridays team announcement.

    As to Stade Francais, they're 12th in the Top14 and haven't won an away game all season. With the current format I'd expect them to target their home games against Sarries and Northampton.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,021 ✭✭✭✭phog




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,021 ✭✭✭✭phog


    Squad Update, besides the lads coming back from International Duty here's the injury update

    On the injury front, Alex Nankivell (hip), Shane Daly (leg) and Thaakir Abrahams (thigh) all made successful returns to action in the URC on Saturday.

    Liam Coombes (leg) made his return for Munster A on Friday and came through the game with no issues.

    Mike Haley was removed as a precaution on Saturday having passed all HIA tests.

    Oli Jager (neck) is increasing his training load and nearing a return to full training.

    Jean Kleyn (neck) is improving but remains unavailable this week.

    Edwin Edogbo (Achilles) is gradually increasing his running volume and targeting a return to training in the New Year.

    Continuing to rehab: Seán O’Brien (leg), Diarmuid Kilgallen (wrist), Jeremy Loughman (hip), Josh Wycherley (neck), Mark Donnelly (ankle), Dave Kilcoyne (ankle), Patrick Campbell (shoulder), Cian Hurley (knee), Edwin Edogbo (Achilles), Roman Salanoa (knee).



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