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Irish General Election - Friday, November 29th *Read OP for Mod Warnings*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 672 ✭✭✭Not made with hands




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,070 ✭✭✭prunudo


    Wouldn't surprise me, people in the Greystones count centre yesterday going around wearing Keffiyeh and Palestinian flag arm bands. Foreign flags or ideologies have no place in Irish elections.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 602 ✭✭✭iffandonlyif


    One of the remarkable things about the Green implosion is that they didn’t enact any seriously unpopular policies. They did things like reduce public transport fares, expand the cycling network, introduce the bottle return scheme that was largely welcomed. The airport passenger cap was lifted before it inflated airfares, and the ban on non-EVs from 2035 is too far away to have influenced voters.

    Somehow they managed to annoy the electorate, including in leafy Dun Laoghaire, without broaching any of the hard measures that would meaningfully curb Ireland’s emissions.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,411 ✭✭✭j62


    Good riddance, people want houses, infrastructure, jobs and ever growing economy

    All the Greens offer are apocalyptic doom and gloom and taxes sprinkled over their de-growth nonsense



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,798 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    Nearly the entire international cohort I'd say, sniffing a huge sensation amid what would otherwise be a dull and abstruse election report for their consumers



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,134 ✭✭✭✭castletownman


    Asparagus, ganga and woolly jumpers.

    Putting the mental into environmentalists. Good riddance.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 641 ✭✭✭J_1980




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,378 ✭✭✭archfi


    The Greens themselves lost all 7 of their TDs in 2011 after being part of the govt that had to call in the IMF.

    They themselves do not care in the slightest as they are intensely ideological so they will rebuild via their councillors and via colleges and will be re-elected again when their replacements the SDs especially and Labour eventually plummet downwards.

    What they've done is get some of their insane beliefs ingrained so tightly into law here that it's job done/part done as far as they are concerned. I don't have belief that the two main parties that enabled them will ever rewind what they have done across several aspects of Irish life and the economy unfortunately.

    It'll be hugely distasteful if O'Gorman is the only one of them left in the Dail, hugely distasteful.

    A thing isn't what it says it is.

    A thing is what it does.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 464 ✭✭Tom1991


    Its mostly the small party in govt gets the knife again but the greens had a lot of infighting during this govt and people losing the whip.


    O Gorman i think also like Leo Varadker jumps into answers a lot of the time with the your wrong heres why your wrong i have the facts. Where as the political cute hooers always use the i hear you i understand and play into peoples desire to be heard first.

    Cant enlighten the very dim people we have in abundance.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 489 ✭✭sliabh 1956


    I think people saw O Gorman as someone they couldnt trust especially in the whole" trans "area and the Greens were all lumped together which was unfortunate but thats happened



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,073 ✭✭✭✭Francie Barrett


    One of the remarkable things about the Green implosion is that they didn’t enact any seriously unpopular policies.

    😂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,903 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    They were a bit over enthusiastic. Like they were trying to solve global warming all by ourselves.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,770 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Totally and basically telling us to get out of our cars and to get using the worst public transportation network of any country in the EU…. not anecdotal btw numerous organisations deem that and greenpeace do also….and then proceeded tax the fûck out of us into the bargain.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 920 ✭✭✭mazdamiatamx5


    Shatter eliminated in Dublin Rathdown. His right wing Zionism too much for voters even in this posho constituency. Sinn Fein's Shaun Tracey won't get in but I'm surprised he did well enough to get 4,223 votes after Count 7. Fourth seat looks like being between Sinead Gibney (SD), Michael Fleming (Independent) and Catherine Martin of the Greens.

    I don't know much about Fleming. He must be strong in the community, don't think he was every associated with a major party, but I could be wrong.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,233 ✭✭✭Bogey Lowenstein
    That must be Nigel with the brie...


    Hutch is out of the race according to RTE.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 561 ✭✭✭CliffHangeroner


    They've caused traffic gridlock in south Dublin with their wacky bicycle lane set up's including Dun Laoghaire.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,556 ✭✭✭niallm77


    Inviting half the world to come here promising them the sun moon and stars while having no plan to house them, shoving hundred of millions, if not billions of euro into hotel owners (or anyone with an empty factory which had been earmarked for much needed apartments) pockets, whilst being part of a govt responsible for a monumental housing and rental crisis would do it.

    The 100-150 quid a year the 90 min leap card saving I make ain't enough.

    I now have to make additional trips to get rid of plastic bottles I was putting in my green bin to get money back otherwise I'm being taxed. And now my bin provider is threatening to increase the charges because they dont get the plastic bottles anymore.

    Treating people with utter disdain when dumping hundreds of young male African or middle Eastern men on their doorstep and accusing them of being racist or far right when these people have no right to reply.

    Is that enough???



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 920 ✭✭✭mazdamiatamx5


    I'm no fan of the Greens but this is nonsense. The traffic gridlock in south Dublin is caused by too many bloody cars on the roads, too many new apartment blocks being approved by largely FF/FG controlled councils and increasing population. And a sign of the area being in general prosperous and a sought after living location. Blaming the Greens and cyclists for everything isn't going to work.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,037 ✭✭✭BlueSkyDreams


    You are also over paying for the Re-turn items, because the cost of the deposit is added onto the original price of the product, not incorporated in to.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 912 ✭✭✭ledwithhedwith


    they are actually an incredibly effective party , get into government get some of their policies in that not many like, get destroyed and then rebuild. Done it twice recently.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,378 ✭✭✭archfi


    Well that was almost like the Line of Duty storyarc in DubC what with an OCG gaining an insider into one of the country's institutions except over here, it was the alleged head of an OCG sitting in the parliament!

    A thing isn't what it says it is.

    A thing is what it does.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,556 ✭✭✭niallm77


    The greens fully support uncontrolled immigration. Which pushes up the demand for housing. It began before 2020 but it has very much been something the greens supported.

    Post covid, the govt had a chance to make hybrid working the norm across the country. It should have been actively encouraged for many reasons, not least reducing car traffic and improving quality of life for a lot of people.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 986 ✭✭✭mykrodot




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 920 ✭✭✭mazdamiatamx5




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,425 ✭✭✭Stephen_Maturin


    Greens should have stuck to their raison detre which is green policies (and more imaginative ones than mostly taxes at that), instead of getting wrapped up in all the identity politics BS



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,510 ✭✭✭standardg60


    Now they have to try and explain how he lost due to the STV. Good luck with that!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 920 ✭✭✭mazdamiatamx5


    "they are actually an incredibly effective party , get into government get some of their policies in that not many like, get destroyed and then rebuild. Done it twice recently."

    Like the PD's during the 1990s and early 2000s in a way.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,770 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    dunno, they oversaw the whole fücking up of the local public transport network here in my area under Eamonn Ryan. Then the Eamonn masterpiece ‘Bus Connects’ and all his mates especially Hazel Chu was one of the biggest cheerleaders of that. That’s not effectiveness that’s deliberately destructive….the opposite.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,228 ✭✭✭Caustic


    Id hope all the lunatics blaming the greens for the immigration crisis in Ireland didn't vote ffg because if that's the case you'd want yer head examined.

    Blaming the very minority party is fairly hilarious



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,273 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    Bus connects was in planning from 2017, and will carry on progressing. Not sure how it's all Eamons fault.



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