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The End of Assad? Syrian Rebels enter the outskirts of Aleppo for the first time since 2016

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,377 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    So often though the women and Joe Soaps back the more extreme side. Look at the amount of women who help properly up religions around the world.

    Look at what our own nuns did or all the families where Granny was the one dragging everyone to mass. Then you had the Iranian morality crowd. Women reporting girls knowing the torture it would lead to.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,775 ✭✭✭Markus Antonius


    If they can slaughter 40000 women and children in the light of day for everyone to see then anything goes. But I guess that's too "antisemitic" for you to handle



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,650 ✭✭✭timmyntc


    Other than the lack of democracy, there are far more individual freedoms to people living under the Assad regime than the Al-Nusra rebels in Idlib



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,411 ✭✭✭j62


    Assad and Putin murdered 350,000 in Syria alone often with chemical weapons

    Those Jews made them do it /s

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 561 ✭✭✭CliffHangeroner


    There will be plenty on here cheering them on as they carry out a massacre. God help the Christians in Aleppo that didn't get out in time.



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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    There seems to be a lot of Assad whitewashing going on at the moment, let's not forget that it was his crackdown on innocent demonstrators and Sunnis that was so extremely brutal it caused the collapse of an army that was quite used to brutality.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,068 ✭✭✭✭Danzy




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,164 ✭✭✭geographica


    El Shams

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,411 ✭✭✭j62


    So we have:

    • conspiracy theorists
    • ”friends of Russia”

    Trying to paint Assad as the good guy

    whom with his buddy Putin has killed 10x the people in Syria alone than the subject of their conspiracy theories



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Sham is just an Arabic word for the Levant/Syria.. so he's really just exposing his ignorance there rather than being very clever.

    If you've been following the conflict at all you would have come across the word by now in some form (ISIL/ISIS is just one example)



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,164 ✭✭✭geographica


    🤷🏼‍♂️



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,743 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    Quoting one of these cowardly UK champagne liberals who decry 'the evil west,' what would you expect. The west is BAD BAD BAD, unless you're giving us jobs or money or rescue from difficult circumstances.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,816 ✭✭✭StrawbsM


    If anyone, like myself, is confused about who’s who in Syria then this X feed might help @Osint613. Copied below from them.

    Here all the groups involved in Syria Right now:

    1.Syrian Arab Army (SAA)
    2.National Defense Forces (NDF)
    3.Hezbollah
    4.Fatemiyoun Brigade
    5.Zainabiyoun Brigade
    6.Russian Armed Forces
    7.Wagner Group
    8.Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF)
    9.People’s Protection Units (YPG)
    10.Hayat Tahrir al-Sham (HTS)
    11.Free Syrian Army (FSA)
    12.Syrian National Army (SNA)
    13.Ahrar al-Sham
    14.Jaysh al-Islam
    15.National Liberation Front (NLF)
    16.Islamic State (ISIS/Daesh)
    17.Turkish Armed Forces
    18.Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC)
    19.Druze militias
    20.Local tribal forces

    Crash course what’s happening in Syria

    Pro-Assad Forces

    The Syrian Arab Army (SAA), backed by allies like the National Defense Forces (NDF), Hezbollah, and Iran’s Fatemiyoun Brigade and Zainabiyoun Brigade, is focused on reclaiming rebel-held territories and preserving Assad’s rule. Russia plays a crucial role by providing air support and deploying forces, including some of the Wagner Group.

    Kurdish-led Groups

    The Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) and People’s Protection Units (YPG) are fighting to maintain autonomy in northern and eastern Syria. They aim to protect Kurdish areas and fend off threats from Turkish forces and Syrian rebels.

    Rebel Factions (also terrorists)

    Groups like Hayat Tahrir al-Sham (HTS), the Free Syrian Army (FSA) (now restructured as the Syrian National Army (SNA) under Turkish support), Ahrar al-Sham, Jaysh al-Islam, and the National Liberation Front (NLF) are united in their goal to overthrow Assad. However, they often clash among themselves and with Kurdish forces.

    Terrorist Organizations

    ISIS remains active in eastern Syria, conducting guerrilla attacks to destabilize the region and regain its lost power base.

    Foreign Powers

    •Turkey: Focused on countering Kurdish autonomy and maintaining influence in northern Syria through Turkish-backed rebel groups like the FSA/SNA.
    •Iran: Supports Assad while using Syria as a corridor to arm Hezbollah.
    •Russia: Bolsters Assad’s regime to secure its military bases and extend its influence in the Middle East.

    In short, Rebel groups, including Hayat Tahrir al-Sham (HTS), the Free Syrian Army (FSA)/Syrian National Army (SNA), Ahrar al-Sham, Jaysh al-Islam, and the National Liberation Front (NLF), aim to overthrow Assad. Many are backed by Turkey and clash with both regime forces and Kurdish groups.

    Assad’s forces, supported by Russia, Iran, Hezbollah, and Iranian-backed militias, are focused on maintaining control over Syria.

    Kurdish groups, led by the Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) and People’s Protection Units (YPG), defend their autonomy in northern and eastern Syria against threats from Turkey and rebel factions.

    Meanwhile, ISIS continues to exploit instability to carry out attacks, and foreign powers like Turkey, Iran, and Russia pursue their own strategic interests.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,644 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,411 ✭✭✭j62


    Russians are bombing civilians again in Syria

    Be fascinating to see how many Palestinian pearl clutchers comment on this



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,661 ✭✭✭Dubh Geannain


    Rebels are making ground towards Hama today. Claiming control over a number of towns and villages just to the North of it.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,903 ✭✭✭donaghs


    Adult men chose to become fanatical intolerant Islamist fighters in group like HTS.

    But labelling an entire ethnic-religious minority as “the brutal Alawite sect”, is a severe misunderstanding, or more than a tad bigoted.

    It’s true that the rise of the Assad family has elevated Alawites into positions of power and influence in Syria, but describing every man woman and child as brutal?

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alawites



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,646 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    I've been impressed with them so far. They caught Assad off guard with lightning strike initially which quickly led to the fall of Aleppo. They raced down and a small group entered Hama at the same time the regrouped regime troops entered from the other side.

    They retreated about 10km maybe more and started picking off the regime who took losses in their counter attack. Now a few days later when reinforcements arrived you can see the progress on your map. Assad seems to be steadily losing and Hama is at risk of encirclement.

    The coming day's will be very telling. If they take Hama you'd fancy them to take Homs too. We'll see. Vicious fighting taking place Assad needs to hold these two cities to prevent Damascus getting cut off from the ports. Israel and the US targeting Iranian reinforcements who are like sitting ducks driving through the desert is really helping also.

    Their only hope is if Hezbollah can reinforce but they're not used to fighting a ground army of nutjobs not afraid to die like themselves. Plus they've not got strong defensive points or tunnels to hold. Advantage rebels. It would be something if they held the 2nd and 3rd largest cities.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,071 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,750 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    If the rebels win it won't be long before they turn on each other. Any minority group that has the means will flee rather than be ruled by the HTS/al nusra( Al Qaeda rebranded) should they take power after the inevitable infighting.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,661 ✭✭✭Dubh Geannain




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 273 ✭✭Perseverance The Second


    The Sheer amount of equipment abandoned by the SAA retreat is astounding. Even abandoning fully loaded SM-30's which are within range of the Russian Khmeimim Air Base.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,068 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    Races of Castlebar vibe.

    Difference is where will it stop.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,094 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie


    General question here:

    Are there more wars now than ever

    OR

    Is there more coverage of war and the amount of war is the same as ever?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,411 ✭✭✭j62


    Gained in 4 days what took Assad and Putin 4 years and several hundred thousand dead civilians to recapture



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,891 ✭✭✭Homelander


    And with no major clashes at all. The SAA is just seemingly largely melting away and abandoning gear without offering any real resistance. Quite strange.

    We saw this in Iraq with ISIS and with Government forces in Afghanistan when the US withdrew but the difference here is that the SAA was fighting up until the ceasefire.

    Obviously we know Russia intervention is probably more limited but to give up Aleppo without any defense seems highly unusual and shows the regime is in serious trouble, far more so than anyone would've thought.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,752 ✭✭✭Rawr


    More coverage. There's almost always been this amount of wars going on throughout even the last 60-odd years. But now we can see every single one in near realtime.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,854 ✭✭✭Enduro


    I totally agree. Over the course of humanity, our chances of dying violently have been continuously decreasing. The world is continuously getting more and more peaceful. However, the velocity of information available has also been accelerating, massively so with the modern internet. So now we can hear about pretty much everything everywhere almost instantly.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,978 ✭✭✭buried


    Amazing how all these foreign Islamist mercenaries all end up heading off to fight the crews that the likes of the USA and Israel have deemed to be villains. You'd imagine these Islamist Jihadi's, even 15% of them, would be heading down to Gaza to help their Islamic sisters & brothers who are actually being eradicated by genocide, but these masked foreign Islamists don't seem to give a $hit about any of that.

    Bullet The Blue Shirts



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,777 ✭✭✭silliussoddius


    Yeah. Here is a war that took place in China in the 1800s, the death toll was approximately 20 million. I seriously doubt many people heard of it in Western Europe at the time.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiping_Rebellion



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