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"Green" policies are destroying this country

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,270 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie


    Hopefully that changes under the new government.
    We need immigrants that will come in and push Ireland inc to the next level.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,426 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    and again, ffg's housing model is based on demand side stimulation, hence why theyre persisting with polcies such as first time buyers, this method was tried in order countries such as Australia, and had the exact same outcome as ffg's approach, it lead to price inflation!

    ffg are ignoring the capacity constraint, and think demand side simulation will encourage supply, it wont!

    ffg have also done everything they can encourage speculation in our markets, which also leads to price inflation!

    all of this will continue under ffg, so on we go with hyper inflation of our markets, and significant capacity constraint, hence low supply output!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,270 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie


    How are FFG “ignoring” the capacity constraint?
    They can’t magic up builders!
    Getting builders in from outside is what is being pushed.
    The new planning build is supposed to speed up the planning process- that was ff/fg



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,750 ✭✭✭yagan


    Not surprised the early indications showing a big slump for the Greens.

    Another generation learned the hard way that the Greens would sell them out to keep the landlord parties in power.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,426 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    seriously! its been obvious, since the 08 crash, that we havent been building enough, thats ignoring the problem! and who have been the main government parties since 08?

    where have ffg implemented policies to encourage people into construction, including encouraging immigrants into these sectors, particularly since 08?

    its been well documented that output has been far below whats required, so where have ffg been?

    its clearly obvious the plan was to re-inflate markets, i.e. demand side stimulation, i.e. increase prices, to try stimulate supply, its not working, and wont!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,270 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie


    So in 2008 we had the recession and ended up with ghost estates, so too many houses.

    You’ve ignored my point about the planning court to combat GP and SF councillors objecting to housing.

    Housing is ramping up and on course to increase to approx 40k completions this year, compared to approximately 32k last year.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 561 ✭✭✭CliffHangeroner


    The Greens should be concentrating on climate and how to address the coming sh it storm. Instead they went full on woke inviting half the planet to our little island causing untold grief for communities the length and breath of the country and have been eviscerated by the electorate



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,158 ✭✭✭saabsaab


    The Greens didn't invite half the planet! Where are you getting that from?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,560 ✭✭✭batman_oh


    I'd assume he's referring to idiot O'Gorman sending out a tweet in 8 languages promising own door accommodation to all arrivals/asylum seekers. The tweets he pretends he didn't ever send and knows nothing about.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,158 ✭✭✭saabsaab




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,992 ✭✭✭✭ednwireland


    My weather

    https://www.ecowitt.net/home/share?authorize=96CT1F



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,592 ✭✭✭Glebee


    I think we must of all dreamed up Rodders tweets.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,560 ✭✭✭batman_oh


    He did, it was even reported in the newspapers. He deleted them and has lied about it ever since. Thankfully some people saved them at the time so every time people claim he didn't send them it can be proved that he did. And the same people will go on about misinformation which is slightly ironic.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,592 ✭✭✭Glebee


    This is such a brilliant skit.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,158 ✭✭✭saabsaab


    This is his side of it from Dail record.

    "

    The Government made a commitment in the Programme for Government to end the current system of accommodation for International Protection applicants and replace it with a new model that is based on a not for profit approach. As part of this process I published A White Paper to end Direct Provision and to Establish a new International Protection Support Service on 26 February 2021. This paper sets out a new approach for accommodating applicants that seek International Protection in Ireland.

    "Own-door" in the context of the White Paper does not mean an applicant is given possession of a property, it means the property provided by the state for temporary habitation to a person while their application for international protection is being assessed has its own door into a family unit, and is not a congregated accommodation setting.

    As part of the process to publish the White Paper tweets were issued from my department in 8 languages, not 47 as stated in your question. These were English, Irish, Albanian, Arabic, French, Georgian, Somali and Urdu. These are the most common languages spoken by those who were residing in Direct Provision accommodation at that time. Communications with residents are regularly made available in relevant languages. "



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,553 ✭✭✭McGrath5


    It doesn’t matter where he got it from, it’s in keeping with the Green bashing this thread is for.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,633 ✭✭✭✭charlie14


    If that was all this thread is about then after today there is pretty much nothing left to bash.

    I thought they would get a bit of a walloping, but it looks as if they will be annihilated.

    Post edited by charlie14 on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,270 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie


    Christ almighty I didn’t see that! That’s crazy!
    Unless the tweets said the person seeking to get into Ireland had to work and have some sort of decent qualification.
    Then it’s ok.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,411 ✭✭✭j62


    It’s simple the Greens got wiped out because

    • People want housing and infrastructure and jobs (aka growth)
    • Greens latched onto de-growth nonsense

    And then the watermelons couldn’t resist leftie woke impulses instead of concentrating on the one cause Climate, with their spokespeople actively arguing for more expensive energy due to unreliable renewables where the only winners are the operators getting guaranteed subsidies and to fleece the taxpayer



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 852 ✭✭✭gossamerfabric


    I see the Greens eventually having the brainwave that we must all must move to the places where Solar generation works like arid portion of sourthern Spain and the solar panels will be able to power A/C and desalination and what not living in 15 minute communes growing veg in hydroponics. Why? Because the proposed "small" tweaks to our lifestyles which they wish to impose upon us will never be enough for them to reach their imagined sustainable nirvana.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,486 ✭✭✭halkar


    Back to tree hugging 🙃



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,674 ✭✭✭Mr. teddywinkles




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,674 ✭✭✭Mr. teddywinkles


    Migrants building houses for more migrants.

    Solid plan. Absolutely nothing can go wrong.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,674 ✭✭✭Mr. teddywinkles


    They must sit around smoking pot and just start shiteing off what ever comes into their heads.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,177 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    Over the moon. The Greens have done a lot of damage to this state in energy security, carbon tax rises and infrastructure obstruction especially roads - they also have been failures in every department they've had.

    Deservedly dismissed by the electorate.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,633 ✭✭✭✭charlie14


    No change there so.

    Other than perhaps smoking pot, there were a few beauts of proposals and utterances from them that were the first things that came into their heads.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 914 ✭✭✭no.8


    And so the cycle of coalition dismemberment continues. The minority party gets wiped out.

    It's all too predictable in Irish politics. To blame all the issues on the incumbent govt. on the Greens is just downright laughable. Living rural (in different parts of Ireland over the years) but hailing from a big city, it's almost cult-like, the dislike for the Greens. Tbh, i'm not a fan of all their policies or all their elected TD's, far from it (personal pref. Would be for us to build a Nuclear power plant for example), but to blame it on all on them and not even acknowledge some of the positive things they've done in govt. points at tribal bias two dimensional bs.

    The clowns who advocated ripping up perfectly good tram and train tracks in the mid-20th century in favour of 1 single mode of transport would likely even acknowledge (if they could) that they didn't realise we'd become an almost 1 car per adult nation. Building bigger roads alone doesn't solve congestion, it's well known internationally. Safer, aligned, better grade roads, yes, but you need a balanced high quality, interconnected system of public transport and private cars. Planning here is just atrocious for that reason and so i think we'll go backwards in that regards.

    The next shower in coalition will be shafted too by the big boys, a nice punching bag.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,664 ✭✭✭ps200306


    Well, I don't know about all the naysayers on this thread, but the Greens got my vote yesterday…

    11th preference out of 11.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,360 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    But there's more coming in yearly then that. And a huge number are "obligated" to be housed never mind the skilled economic immigrants who'll be buying/renting.

    Something needs to give because if we go crazy trying to build too many houses the next global recession could finish us.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,140 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    In the last 100 years FFG have founded CIE, Dublin bus and built the luas. Quite an ignorance done wrong

    In the Greens last 4 years of being in charge of transport they've allowed bus eireann to stop providing regional city bus routes and handed the responsibility over to private hands, they've stood over the real time Ireland app being replaced by the more clunky TFI live one and the cork city bus network was curtailed

    But we got bike lanes for the scramblers to use 👍👍👍



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