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The End of Assad? Syrian Rebels enter the outskirts of Aleppo for the first time since 2016

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,376 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Switching sides or deserting is the only way things ever move this fast. It will be tsars shot in basements and the last chopper leaving the embassy roof kinda stuff by the end of the night.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,642 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    Syrian General Maher al-Assad, brother of President Bashar al-Assad, just said that troop gathering is finished within hours and that the SAA (Syrian Arab Army) will not allow Aleppo to fall.

    Is this guy related to Baghdad Bob?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,642 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    You don't live there however and if you wanted you could have left like millions of Syrians did to Europe. These people stayed and as of now there is jubilation from the locals. Don't forget most of the anti Assad residents were pushed out to Idlib and and Turkey in their droves. Hopefully they can return.

    What we should hope for is Aleppo not turning into the next Kabul where woman get less respect then a rat on the street.

    It's a disaster for Russia but we'll soon find out if it's good or bad for the civilians.

    This could be celebrations in the rebel city of Idlib. Not confirmed if it's Aleppo yet.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,068 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    One Of the big step downs by Assad in the years before the civil war started was his outlawing of honour killing, the reaction from much of the country was not good and he had to back down.

    In a region where compromise or tolerance is an incitement to attack you, it encouraged his enemies, many of them subsequently came to Europe when they lost but they are not out and may be about to storm through



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 273 ✭✭Perseverance The Second


    https://x.com/QalaatAlMudiq/status/1862596026206409182

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    The rebel groups have entered into the Municipal Building of Aleppo. A far deeper advance when compared to 2016. As things stand Aleppo will be out of Assad's control within a few days at most.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,068 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    .

    Looks like they might be abandoning it entirely.

    Turkey is a key player in this, we might end up seeing a split Syria with a big chunk being a Turkish dominated entity .

    Turkey looks like being a hostile actor to Europe down the line, its well on that path



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,293 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    surprised they arent tryna call for Ireland to swoop in and save Assad and try to get him to put manners on Israel.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,642 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    Michael D Higgins is going to fly Assad back here on his personal jet. It's been a bad few days for Russian and Iranian terrorist sympathisers.

    It looks like Aleppo and many other towns will fall tonight never mind this week. The question is where will Assad's forces regroup and try and hold the line. Losing Aleppo and the surrounding area is already a huge blow but in the next week we could see further changes.

    Just a note the Iranian militias who occupied some of the nearby towns completely emptied them of civilians which inevitably worsened the refugee crisis in Europe and Turkey. Running the Iranians out of there will inevitably lead to some locals returning home which is a good thing.

    To put Aleppo into context it would be like Ukraine storming Donetsk and retaking it in a 3 day operation. And as we know 3 Day operations are easier said then done.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,081 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    Hard to tell who the "good guys" are, if any, in this mess.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,642 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    Seems more militias see this as their opportunity.

    All eyes on Kursk. Slava Ukraini.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,775 ✭✭✭Markus Antonius


    Apart from the israeli genocide, I haven't really been following much goings on in the middle east.

    Not sure why everyone supports the dethrowning of Russian-backed leaders? Nearly always results in the flooding to Europe of military-aged men.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,642 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    The timing of Assad's visit to Moscow and I believe he's still there. I'd say Putin is strangling him the way Homer Simpson would to Bart.

    There's a lot of fog of war tonight. Some claiming the city has been abandoned while others say reinforcements will make a stand in the Eastern side of Aleppo. We'll find out tomorrow when day breaks.

    https://caliber.az/en/post/president-assad-arrives-in-moscow-amid-rising-tensions-in-syria



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    Its the russian backed leaders that increase the numbers of refugees, this is a tactic russia has been using for a number of years to try and destabilise Europe.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,133 ✭✭✭✭Francie Barrett


    Replacing Assad for Isis is certainly no victory.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 561 ✭✭✭CliffHangeroner


    It is to some here if it means Putin get's a bloody nose. Never mind what they'll do to women, young girls, Christians etc…

    Assad is a piece of sh it and so is Putin for supporting him but these savages are not the answer.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,642 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    Bar the Kurds and FSA, think the rest are cnuts. Even have doubts about the FSA.

    All eyes on Kursk. Slava Ukraini.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,642 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    Looks like as government forces collapse the kurks and Turkish backed militants are trying to take up as many positions as possible. I hope these ultimately don't go to war with eachother. There have been clashes but nothing major so far.

    Turkish backed rebels making gains heading south again. Whether they get stopped before taking the next major city of Homs and Hama will be very telling for the Assad regime.



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    The current FSA has little to do with the original FSA though, iirc the modern group is a faction that got Turkish backing and then took the name after the original faction melted away around 2013/2014.

    The Kurds are the easiest to get behind but even they were accused of ethnic cleansing Arabs put of certain areas at times.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,642 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    Middle Eastern politics makes Game of Thrones look easy.

    All eyes on Kursk. Slava Ukraini.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,411 ✭✭✭j62


    Another faux concern post

    remind us how many women men and children your Russian comrades have raped and exterminated and kidnapped

    Never mind the 350,000 civilians in Syria Russians helped kill



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,642 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    New defensive line has collapsed apparently.

    This is not looking good for Assad unless the Iranian and Russian forces can stabilise. But only so much can be done with air power.

    All eyes on Kursk. Slava Ukraini.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,642 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    I was just about to post this. That city is a million people. All happening while Assad and his family hide in Moscow. Russian aerial bombing not stopping them. In fact it's hurting civilians more going by the images.

    I'd been following the progress and they'd been steam rolling towards Hama but I assumed the government would put up a fight there. At this rate they'll be making their stand in Damascus.

    The road to Damascus 2024 edition.

    Pray there will be a peaceful coexistence between the Kurd and Turkish backed militias.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,642 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    I'm presuming the Kurdish pockets will withdraw to a more sustainable position.

    Think you're right in that it could be Damascus as the counter attack line but waiting for Russian Fabs to begin their work.

    All eyes on Kursk. Slava Ukraini.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,625 ✭✭✭OscarMIlde


    I disagree. Despise Russian actions in Ukraine, indefensible. But the spread of ISIS and similar jihadis throughout Iraq/syria will result in actual genocide for more moderate muslims and christians in these regions.

    “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.”


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,642 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    Fcuk it's moving fast.

    Reports that Homs will not be defended either

    All eyes on Kursk. Slava Ukraini.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,168 ✭✭✭ilkhanid


    Cecil Day Lewis

    They who in folly or mere greed

    Enslaved religion, markets, laws,

    Borrow our language now and bid

    Us to speak up in freedom’s cause.

    It is the logic of our times,

    No subject for immortal verse –

    That we who lived by honest dreams

    Defend the bad against the worse.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 273 ✭✭Perseverance The Second


    It appears the SAA have also abandoned Hama as well.

    Now seems to be a question of whether the SAA will attempt to defend Homs.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,903 ✭✭✭donaghs


    Yeh, it’s kind of creepy seeing people here cheering on the Syrian version of Al Qaeda.

    If they do win, the current multi-ethnic/relgious Syria will be torn apart. “Alawites to the grave and Christians to Beirut!” was a chant in 2011.

    The Shia and Druze can’t expect much better treatment either. And then the Kurds will be next. Plus any “freethinker” of any description.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,642 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    Fighting now in Damascus

    Smells like a coup

    All eyes on Kursk. Slava Ukraini.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,292 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    gets popcorn 😀

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